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IWASHITA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Tyler, have you had an opportunity to <br />review the Wes Thomas Associates’ survey map? <br />TYLER:I have. I have it in front of me here. Mr. Lau showed it to me <br />before the meeting and he left it here for me to refer to if I needed to. <br />IWASHITA:Do you have any concerns about the lines drawn by Wes Thomas <br />Associates as to the location of the Judd Trail, in particular at the mauka end of the <br />remnant of the wall? Basically a line just jogs off to the right back to the boundary line, <br />you know, and that’s a GIS kind of line or a GPS line; and it doesn’t seem like the way <br />the wall would have originally been built. But do you have any concerns about any of <br />those lines drawn on the Wes Thomas map? <br />LAU:I drew a dashed line on the map that I showed Mr. Tyler that <br />would coincide with that additional buffer that we had discussed earlier. So what <br />Mr. Tyler has in front of him differs slightly from what you have because of the dash line <br />that I drew. <br />TYLER:May I answer the question? <br />IWASHITA:Yes. Please. <br />TYLER:Yes, and thank you to Mr. Lau for explaining the dash line because <br />I was going to point out that there is a dash line, a hand written dash line that is not a <br />surveyor’s line. As I tried to state when answering Mr. Chairman Watanabe’s question, <br />the fact that portions of the trail were damaged, obliterated, destroyed, doesn’t mean the <br />trail wasn’t on this property. Okay? And if anybody doubts that, they just have to go and <br />look to the rulings, recent rulings by Judge Ibarra regarding the Hokulia case; and those <br />issues remain, those Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, Decision of Order remain <br />intact. They were not part of the settlement, as I understand it. So what has happened so <br />often in my short, you know, 60 years of living here, and I say short because this is going <br />back over a thousand years, is that these kinds of things get taken away, they get <br />destroyed on a weekend or even, you know, whatever; and nobody is here to see it. So <br />when they say, oh, we can’t find it, the wall isn’t here -- Well, the wall was there. The <br />wall was there because, you know, I saw it. In fact, the impact statement says that the <br />wall was there and it was damaged. <br />So when I talk about a 10-foot buffer from the edge of the trail, I mean from the edge of <br />the trail that exists, not from where somebody else’s easement is on another piece of <br />property. It’s from where the trail was. Okay? <br />IWASHTIA:Thank you, Mr. Tyler. <br />TYLER:You’re welcome. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />19 <br /> <br />
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