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IWASHITA:I’ve been looking at these documents, and given the Director’s <br />comments, I guess -. I understand the Director’s comments to say that basically as far as <br />the actual restoration of the Judd Trail it’s not in the County’s hands, is not in our hands, <br />it’s going to be in the State’s, I guess, through Na Ala Hele at some point, if that’s, you <br />know, going to be done. You know, whenever the subdivision was done in the ‘90s or <br />‘80s, up mauka, you know, the County took the steps to preserve the Judd Trail legally by <br />setting it out as part of that subdivision process. I think, you know, we’re talking about <br />probably if it’s ever going to be restored, the most important part of the Judd Trail being <br />the terminus on Ali`i Drive. And, you know, if we don’t do anything now to take <br />advantage of the opportunity here to do what we can to preserve what we can in some <br />form, you know, as Mr. Tyler suggests, then it seems to me that’ll be the beginning of <br />forgetting about this and, you know, no hope almost of ever getting the 16 miles, the <br />other 16 miles of the Judd Trail restored. So I really would like to have some provisions <br />in. And if it takes, you know, perhaps extending the preservation area along this <br />boundary to include, you know, what is clearly part of the Judd Trail, then I think that’s <br />what we can do and that’s what should be done. I understand the legal limitations <br />because it is State property today. So my suggestion is that we extend, you know, as a <br />condition of this SMA permit, that we extend the preservation area from its present <br />description to include, frankly, to be safe and to be in accordance with the -. Mr. <br />Kennedy, what is the buffer zone now that’s, what’s the word to that buffer zone in the <br />existing preservation area? <br />KENNEDY:There’s a 40-foot temporary buffer zone and a 20-foot permanent <br />buffer zone. <br />IWASHITA:Okay, so I would suggest that a similar buffer zone along the <br />southern boundary basically, you know, that would be described as along the Judd Trail; <br />and in that way then we can be assured that for future purposes when Na Ala Hele finally <br />gets together to do the Judd Trail restoration that there is on this property the area <br />necessary in order to do the restoration. <br />WATANABE:I understand your desire for an abundance of caution but -. You <br />know, maybe we can ask the Director, as far as building setbacks on the side perimeters, <br />how far is that currently? And if he were to extend this preservation area, would the <br />building setbacks then change from the property line that currently exists to the end of the <br />preservation area? Because now we’re talking about potentially reducing, significantly <br />reducing, the building area; and I don’t see that as something that is easily <br />accommodated. <br />YUEN:Before I answer that question or address this, I just want to, I think <br />I’ve asked it before but I just want to be absolutely clear on this. Mauka of the last extent <br />of the stonewalls, is there any physical sign at all of where the Judd Trail is? <br />KENNEDY:Unfortunately not. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />25 <br /> <br />