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IWASHITA:Okay. And you’re relying on other testimony as to the fact that <br />there’s no other walls mauka of what’s represented on the map? <br />CHANG:Yes. But that would be on the properties up above and not on the <br />property that we’re talking about here today. <br />IWASHITA:Oh, okay. On properties further mauka there are remnants of walls <br />that were originally built? <br />CHANG:Not that I know of, you know, with going up to the highway. I’m <br />only familiar with the property in question today; and within that property the wall does <br />exist. <br />IWASHITA:Okay. Thank you. <br />WATANABE:Mr. Graham? Mr. Chang, you may have another question. <br />GRAHAM:Yeah, I’ll address my question first to Mr. Lau but maybe you can <br />help out, and I just want to try to be clear on everything. And, so, Mr. Lau, taking from <br />your testimony, we’ve jumped right into talking about the Judd Trail on this application <br />because it has been our primary focus. And it feels to me like there’s two aspects to it. <br />One is sort of an archaeological preservation aspect and another is making a, or <br />facilitating some future use of a real trail that can be used by the people of Hawai`i. And <br />my primary focus is on the second one, but we certainly want to take care of the first one, <br />too. So my understanding of where we are now -. At the last meeting, I believe you all <br />offered to do a trail stabilization effort on the trail part that was within your property. Is <br />that still something you’re offering to do? <br />LAU:With respect to the walls, I think we’re just talking about the walls <br />because that’s what exists and subject to the approval of the State agency that has <br />jurisdiction. Yes, we would stabilize. We would also, I think we talked about clearing <br />the area of any noxious weeds. <br />GRAHAM:And that would include keawe trees and things like that that might <br />be grown into it or -? <br />LAU:Yes, yeah. <br />GRAHAM:Okay. And then once it leaves your property, or abuts your <br />property, or whatever going mauka, from there until like the mauka boundary, extent of <br />your property, is what you’re offering to have a metes and bounds survey done on this. Is <br />that correct? <br />LAU:Well, the metes and bounds survey would be done from the section <br />of the Judd Trail that is on Parcel 61. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />6 <br /> <br />