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WATANABE:Any questions? Mr. Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:The Zoning Code provides for a crematorium in CV and in all the <br />Industrial, the three Industrial classifications and -. ‘Cause I want to know if you looked <br />into having the retort put in a space in an Industrial area as opposed to, you know, in <br />Kailua town? <br />P. BRUMBAUGH: Okay. When we first began to look for a place, I’ll just go back <br />from there, we met a lot of difficulties in even locating a building for us to even operate <br />out of. There’s a lot of pre-conceived ideas of what we do and, you know, granted, <br />people don’t like death and, so, I can understand that. But finding the building we did, <br />we had to find a building we could work out of that we fit the zoning for; and funeral <br />home mortuaries are only allowed in Commercial Village, Commercial General, <br />Commercial Residential. CV is where we are. In order to go to an Industrial area, <br />Industrial area, we can’t operate a funeral services establishment there, it’s not zoned; <br />and we can’t even get a user permit for that. We can do a retort, but then we’d have to <br />have a separate property to set the retort in order to function, which would then, again, <br />increase our expenses. If we have to do it, we will. But since we have the space in the <br />building that we could work from, it just made it more logical and more economical for <br />us to try to get the retort there since we could do it with the user permit. We had to do a <br />use permit either way; and at least we could do it on-site in our facility. <br />IWASHITA:So, that answer is no, you have not looked at other, another space <br />in a Industrially-zoned place to put the retort? <br />P. BRUMBAUGH: I mean as in specifically talking to other people? <br />IWASHITA:Yeah, I want to know if -. You want to do it in the space you have, <br />right? <br />P. BRUMBAUGH: We would like to do it in the space that we have because it’s more <br />economical to us and it’s of convenience. The other is that we don’t have to go through <br />another lease, get another set of arrangements. We have looked at purchasing other <br />property. The amount of commercial properties or properties available for that purpose, <br />there isn’t much around to do that. We’re pretty well limited to what we’ve got. And the <br />industrial buildings, there’s just -. When we were looking the first time just to find a <br />place for ourselves while we were going around there, the availability for what we’re <br />wanting to do was very difficult to find. Did you want me go over that? <br />CARROLL:Just mention it. <br />P. BRUMBAUGH:Okay. One of the things that was brought up that we, a long time <br />ago, back in the good old days, in communities where you grew up, a funeral home was <br />one of the houses down the street. They called them funeral homes because that’s where <br />the funeral people lived, they lived there. And when people came to their home, they‘d <br />EXHIBIT D <br />14 <br /> <br />