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here to represent the funeral home and answer any questions that you have and, you know, if you have any technical questions or any kind of information that you need on the equipment, we’re here to help you out. WATANABE:Well, follow-up, Mr. Salavea? SALAVEA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. So in regards to the statements made by Mr. Nakakura about the condition or the smoke and the ash coming out of the stack, that isn’t part of the normal operating procedures and -? RAGGETT:It’s not true one bit. If that was the case, we’d all be out of business as far as the cremation manufacturing goes. If you ask 50 percent of the people in this, 100 percent of these people in the room 50 percent would choose cremation. We’re manufacturing crematories on a daily basis, and there’s six manufacturers within the United States; and if all of us had those problems of what Shawn has been describing, we’d all be sued and out of business. So there is no true finding in that at all. SALAVEA:And a follow-up to that is, could you summarize for us, the Commission, in the most layman terms possible, what is the expectation and what regulations you folks or the crematorium needs to abide by? I mean, if there is particulate matter coming out the way he’s claiming, like you said, I don’t think that would meet EPA standards or somebody would be complaining, right? RAGGETT:Exactly. In the State of California where we manufacture them, there are four different agencies that govern cremation equipment. There are three agencies of government here in Hawai`i. But the first agency is obviously the City, they dictate whether it’s okay to put them in; and if it’s not okay, by Conditional Use Permits. The second agency is Air Quality. Every single crematory in all of the United States and even in the Philippines and Mexico and everywhere else, they require air quality permits. The crematories are source-tested, they’re UL-tested and they are mechanically-tested before they go out; and, so, all of these machines are governed by that agency. And if the machine were to have a problem, that agency does unannounced inspections and once-a- year inspections to make sure that those problems don’t happen. And, so, what we have to, the rules that we go by on manufacturing these is that when the Applicant decides to purchase a crematory, then we file the application with the Air Quality. They, we submit all the data, and all the emissions, and all the reports, and the particulate, and the mercury, and anything else that comes from a crematory to them. They determine if it’s low enough volumes that it won’t affect the, you know, the atmosphere or the neighboring communities. We have these things placed near schools, playgrounds, parks; and we don’t have any problems. And, so, once they issue the permit, then we place the machine in; and then the Air Quality agency comes out and inspects it after it’s up and running to make sure that it’s all exactly the way we said it was. Some of the other requirements from the State of California is that the Consumer Affairs is involved where they have unannounced inspections. And they govern cremation to make sure that people are doing what they’re supposed to do as far as paperwork, EXHIBIT D 8