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us, and how to treat the land. And, so, in the western education, thatÓs the way I teach it. I teach the way my mother and father taught us, but I teach in that school in a western style. And I also say IÓm a product of today which means that IÓm not against development. IÓm just against where development sometimes is an certain parts of the island. Mauna Kea is maybe my biggest problem and, you know, and IÓm not against astronomy. I think thatÓs a wonderful study. I just donÓt like them putting the telescopes on the mountain. They need to put it somewhere else to continue that study. TOGASHI:I think -. Thank you. KANAHELE:So thatÓs, you know, thatÓs my thing with -. Certain places on the island does not need development or should not have development; and it has to do with the place, it has to do with our longevity. My philosophy is the whole idea of Hloa. Hloa is from the time of Wkea, the birth of the child was Hloa. Hloa in its metaphorical sense means long breath. Long breath is our existence and our existence especially on this land, we have to exist. And our existence go back to places that, to that womb, that metaphorical womb, that that land is. Our existence go back to the purity of that mountain and its connection with the whole atmosphere, and its connection to the idea that it grabs water for us, and it feeds this land, gives this land water. So itÓs very, very basic things like that that helps us to survive. It doesnÓt only help us Hawaiians but helps everybody else that come on this land to survive. But wha about it is the fact that our kupunas taught us that, how to survive on this land and to survive on this land by keeping certain places the way it is, because thatÓs whatÓs going to make us live. ItÓs very basic, doesnÓt have to do with metaphor, has to do with longevity of life. And, so, thatÓs my philosophy. TOGASHI:IÓm glad that you reminded me during your testimony that Hawaiian way was not to, and there was this concept of mahaÒoi. And IÓm glad that you reminded me that the Hawaiian way was not to leave a lot of written documentation, unlike western taught where you spoke of bibliography. You know, thereÓs not much which has been recorded in written form. Am I correct and is that what you said during your testimony, that there was not a whole lot of written documentation left by the ancient Hawaiians, unlike the western way? KANAHELE:A lot of the teachings were not written out in its full understanding. They were repeated over and over in chants; and those who understood the chants understood it well enough so that they knew what the person was talking about, but not everybody understood the chants. TOGASHI:And so, you know, with this thought that maybe there was not a whole lot in documentation, and you spoke of, and when Ms. Roy questioned you as to whether is there a lot to be learned, is there further learning question, the proposed site of the development, is there much that we can still learn from this site as well as the Keakealaniwahine Complex and Keolonhihi -? And I guess my question, and the way I look at it is if there isnÓt a whole lot of written documentation, the 28