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and youÓre looked at as an expert. And, so, in the area of the Hawaiians, they didnÓt have pages and pages of bibliography, they were not looked at as an expert. And the whole thing about expert when you come to books has to do with the western education, not our education. M. ROY:Testimony yesterday by Mr. Forman gave reference to, in actuality, Hawaiian way being. It would be regarded as the term mahaÒoi, to volunteer, for example, information about land places and the like. So we had a healthy examination of a difference between western acknowledgment by the way youÓre saying, bibliography or writing, versus the character of our cultural way which was to be protective of the wealth of what weÓve been inheriting from our not apt to volunteer. KANAHELE:If your conversation didnÓt have a functional objective, you would not volunteer the information. If it has a functional objective, you would volunteer the information, talk about it, get into it a little deeper and, in fact that, but -. So you only would talk about Keolonhihi, make the reference to Keolonhihi and Keakealawahine, if you talked about the practices that was going there and you were involved in the practices that were going on there. If youÓre not involved in the practices that were going on, you donÓt talk about it. For one thing, you donÓt know anything about it and, so, you didnÓt talk about it. And youÓre mahaoe, if youÓre going to talk about it, you donÓt know anything about it and you donÓt practice it. M. ROY:I can remember, Aunty Pua, one of the most memorable moments from learning from your mom, Aunty Edith, was when she expressed, if you, the Hawaiians do not express what they do not know, they do not speak on what they do not know. And when she said, no, the depth of that word was the dep experienced it. Has the State followed in any of your recommendations to acquire any of these properties that you know of? KANAHELE:No, I donÓt think so. No, it hasnÓt. ItÓs still full of bushes. M. ROY:And, in fact, is it true that the south portion in Kaumalumalu has now been developed, purchased by an outside source? Was there -? Thank you. I strike the question. Since your report, have you known of any activity from the State on this area since your work with the State in those years? KANAHELE:I know that they went on to cut some big trees at one time and that was it. M. ROY:Aunty Pua, you have a vast background. Can you just give a little background of your profession, for one thing, at present? You are a very, you are so highly respected as being the kumuhula and master, really, of that. But can I ask you about your profession currently? 9