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VITOUSEK:ItÓs because of the contours of the land and the houses <br />Drive, isnÓt that correct? <br />YUEN:I think itÓs because of the houses, the houses on Blasman, the vegetation, <br />and the houses on Alii Drive. I think if all vegetation were cleared and all the houses <br />were cleared, you could see Hlualoa Bay from that wall, I think. <br />VITOUSEK:On the north side? <br />YUEN:Certainly Î. <br />VITOUSEK:Hlualoa Bay is located north of this property. <br />YUEN:Yeah. If you looked, if all the vegetation were cleared, o <br />from points near the south side of the wall, you probably could see Hlualoa Bay. <br />Definitely from the north corner, again, if all the structures were gone and all the <br />vegetation were gone, I think you would see the bay. <br />VITOUSEK:The reason that you, what is the reason or reasons that you selected a site <br />outside the walls of the Pkiha as the reference point for assessing the visual impact? <br />YUEN:My, my expectation is that if people, assuming that people are allowed on <br />the site, that they would be, certainly walking on the walls would be highly discouraged. <br />So, and IÓm not sure if, how much access within the walls would be allowed or <br />encouraged. If there is access in the walls, I think that there would certainly be access <br />outside. IÓm not as concerned if youÓre inside the walls, because the walls themselves <br />provide some blockage, provide some visual blockage when youÓre in there, in the <br />enclosure. <br />VITOUSEK:Then Pkiha is by, is by definition an enclosure, isnÓt that correct? IsnÓt <br />that what portion of Î? <br />YUEN:A ÐpaÑ is a flat place, I think. I donÓt know what Pkiha means. <br />VITOUSEK:So this is a, this is an enclosed area, isnÓt that correct? <br />YUEN:Yeah, itÓs a rectangular area enclosed by a stonewall. It varies in height, <br />maximum being 11 feet. I think there are places where itÓs only, minimum is may be five <br />feet high. And there a couple of entrance points, at least one entrance point. I canÓt <br />remember if there are two. <br />VITOUSEK:Okay. And I think you referred in your testimony yesterday that they were <br />significant because they were high, high walls among other things. You felt that they are <br />well preserved in high walls? <br />30 <br /> <br />