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YUEN:I donÓt know. I thought she lived in Kau, to tell you the truth. She was a <br />kamaaina who was interested in Hawaiian history and studies, and was known as a local <br />historian, fairly well-known individual in that, in that field. So thatÓs all I know about <br />her. I donÓt think I , I donÓt know if I ever met her. But sheÓs, sheÓs known in the <br />community as a person who tried to study and learn about Hawaiia <br />GIFFIN:And she was quoted in the application, the former application as given <br />credence to the fact that PuÒu Nui was an actual place? <br />YUEN:This is, yes. I mean, this is somebody said Violet Hansen said that she <br />heard that the name was PuÒu Nui. <br />GIFFIN:Okay. Now did they give a date when, I mean, I know you mentioned the <br />date of the former application. <br />YUEN:Yes. <br />GIFFIN:And this was in that background report or whatever it was for the <br />application, is that what youÓre saying? <br />YUEN:I think it was in someoneÓs testimony or in a letter, and I canÓt remember <br />what. There was a fair amount of the same, some of the same kinds of things that weÓre <br />talking about today at the time of that application, more in the sense of trying to, there <br />was more about trying to determine where some heiau were that are mentioned in the old <br />records. But I know this came up. I have the file in the car. I can try dig it out to get <br />exactly what was said. But this is just something that came up in 1980. When she got <br />the information, I donÓt know. <br />GIFFIN:And then you said in 1936, the subject property received a separate tax lot, <br />a tax map key number? <br />YUEN:Some time, some time before 1936, because the first tax map <br />have date from about 1936, and youÓll see this was already a one and quarter acre lot. I <br />think that the size, I think there has been a slight change to the boundaries since then on <br />the lower lot side. But, other than that, the lot itself must have been created before 1936. <br />And the only, I was hoping that this would come out in some of the testimony. In the <br />National Register Application, there is title, thereÓs a little bit of title information about <br />the property after the award to Loe. <br />GIFFIN:Yes. <br />YUEN:It says that Loe passed away. And then it says that in the 1980Ós, Queen <br />Kapiolani bought a 2/3 interest in Grant 7-2-2-8, thatÓs a larger property now; and that a <br />man named MoÓe who is a descendant of Loe retained a third. And then it doesnÓt say <br />anything. And notice, I mean, this is not, this property, that report is, of course, not <br />4 <br /> <br />