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as much, where theyÓre closer to where they work or closer to where, or closer to where <br />they shop, or allow shopping to be closer to their homes. <br />I attended a lecture sometime ago by the head of planning for the National Association of <br />Governors and he said something a little scary. He says once you have traffic congestion <br />you always have it, and you never build your way out of it. We <br />building and we do have to do some improvements because of safety concerns, and <br />thereÓs just no way, and itÓs extremely expensive. WeÓve fallen behind in Kona and to <br />catch up, itÓs unfortunately if you look at the cost of things, the cost of Alii Parkway for <br />roughly three miles is something like $40 million. ItÓs extremely expensive to do this. <br />And weÓre going to be catching up for awhile. But you must not, youÓre not just going to <br />build your way out of it by building better roads. We have to do these things in <br />improving the land use pattern to make this, to try to fix this problem. But itÓs not a <br />problem that is created or fixed on a level of a single subdivision. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Kubota? <br />KUBOTA:My final, my final statement. So, in other words, after <br />explanation, and donÓt think I do not understand that long-range planning and looking at <br />the big picture is very, very important, as you pointed out. However, we have this <br />problem on Palani Street that has been haunting us for years. Do we, as Commissioners, <br />go on with business as usual because the changes arenÓt, road fixing is not the primary <br />thing that is going to change the congestion or the danger on the road? Or, the next <br />question that I have is, is it physically, financially possible to fix Palani Road to ease the <br />congestion? Is there a plan in somebodyÓs mind within our State, whether itÓd be County <br />or Department of Transportation, to put more mauka-makai arterials in Kona to alleviate <br />the problem at Palani? I mean, yeah, I donÓt know the answers to it. I mean, weÓve been <br />chasing a pipeÓs dream, I think. Because IÓve been on this Commission now for 4-1/2 <br />years and the problem has been Palani. And they keep, as Mr. Stirling said, and I <br />sympathize with the people in the community, because it always comes up. Every time <br />we have development in Kona, it affects Palani. Palani is the road that is highlighted in <br />my mind and it will be forever until such time as some relief is <br />here. And I donÓt know what to do is, I guess, where IÓm coming <br />YUEN:Some specifics -. I donÓt like to pass the buck but the Hinalani- <br />Mamalahoa intersection is State and I donÓt know what theyÓre planning. Okay, Palani is <br />County. One thing we should do as a Department or Commission is not have additional, <br />we should not rezone to allow more lots that enter off of Palani. ThatÓs important. And it <br />sounds very automatic but there was a rezoning about four years ago that, as just that, just <br />below the ÐSÑ curve. <br />As far as another mauka-makai, itÓs in the CountyÓs plans. We have, thereÓs a developer <br />that, itÓs something that is, would be, have to be in conjunction with a truly major <br />development; and even then itÓs quite unlikely that the developer can carry it on their <br />own. But when we have developers come in with major pieces of property between <br />Kaahumanu and Mamalahoa, this is something that weÓre working on <br />15 <br /> <br />