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the current Subdivision Code? So are we to just continue as we’ve been doing? Is that the <br />Chamber’s position? <br />WILLIAMS: I would say that we should continue the format but possibly there needs to <br />be some changes in the Codes; and that would be up to the Council as a law-making body to <br />propose those changes. I do believe there’s room for changes to the Code. But I don’t think <br />you’d want to change the format the way that the process is done. <br />RHO: And I just want to make one last comment. I was in Los Angeles about <br />two weeks ago for about 14 days; and I spent most of the time in Los Angeles, downtown Los <br />Angeles. They have, in my estimation anyway, a wonderful bus system which I took. I didn’t <br />rent a car until the last couple of days, and I drove down to San Diego. And I’m sure some of <br />you have driven from Los Angeles to San Diego. They have five, sometimes six-lane freeways <br />and the speed limit for most of it is 65 miles per hour. Most of the cars are going 70 or 80, and <br />maybe 85; and some of them on the left lane are going maybe in excess of 85. And I know that <br />because I was driving at least 70 to 75 miles an hour, not on the left lane but on the third and <br />fourth lane. The fifth lane is basically the turn-off lane and the incoming lane. The reason I <br />bring that up is at one point for a good stretch of like 30 minutes to 45 minutes on that five- to <br />six-lane freeway, we were traveling, all five or six lanes at between 25 and 35 miles per hour; <br />and I couldn’t believe it. I thought I was back in Kona driving from Kailua-Kona, I mean, <br />driving from the airport to Costco and to Kailua town. <br />IWASHITA: That’s five miles per hour. <br />RHO: I know, but I felt the same way. I mean, you’re on this five- or six-lane <br />freeway and it was not, I left LA at 11 o’clock and within 45 minutes to an hour, so now it’s <br />about 12 o’clock, I’m travelling at between 25 and 30 miles per hour on a six-lane freeway in the <br />middle of the day. I thought the traffic jam was before 9 o’clock and after 3:30. There was no <br />evidence anyway of an accident for the next, till I got to San Diego there was no accident. So I <br />guess my thinking, as I read through this material and hear all this testimony or this discussion, is <br />are we really going to solve our problem or -? I mean, I don’t personally think, and that’s why I <br />asked you the question, I don’t personally think that the general plan, the community <br />development plan if Mr. Iwashita is reporting correctly his impressions, or the current <br />Subdivision Code, even amending it with, you know, minor changes, will do the job. We’re <br />going to end up like Honolulu, we’re going to end up like LA, we’re going to end up like San <br />Diego, and every part between LA and San Diego.It’s terrible. We need some major, I’m not <br />talking about tweaking, we need some major, major decisions made by some very creative <br />people, and maybe some decisions that a lot of people will not like. But I just throw that out to <br />you. Thank you. <br />ALAMEDA: All right. So that was a question that he already knew the answer to. <br />IWASHITA: Mr. Chair? <br />ALAMEDA: So let me just remind you, Commissioners, we have a testifier here that <br />will entertain any questions that you might have, but not statements. And if you have a question, <br />make it a genuine question. Okay? Go ahead. Commissioner Iwashita, what’s your question? <br /> EXHIBIT B 11 <br /> <br /> <br />