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IWASHITA: Thank you for your guidance, Mr. Chair. Hi, Bob. You keeping your
<br />swing slow and smooth?
<br />WILLIAMS: Trying.
<br />IWASHITA: This is directed to you, and at the risk of incurring the wrath of the Chair
<br />I’m just going to say this, that I really –. You heard my comments earlier, yeah? And I really
<br />want to encourage you as the president of the Hawaii Island Chamber of Commerce to use your
<br />position and to talk to all the other chambers and everybody to strongly consider the community
<br />development plan process and getting it, you know. Cause I, I fully agree obviously what
<br />Commissioner Rho just said, right, that we’ve got a system exactly like LA, I mean the
<br />differences are minor, exactly like San Diego. Our zonings laws are, you know, land use
<br />development, planning -. Planning is a misnomer. I think Commissioner Rho said unplanned
<br />development, there’s no such thing, not in this state, not in California, not any place in this
<br />country. There’s no such thing. Everything is planned. Everything on Oahu was planned.
<br />Where they put the roads, how many roads, how messed up it is, it is all planned. Same thing on
<br />Maui, Kihei, Lahaina, and same thing in Kailua. Everything was planned, everything was
<br />approved; and this is what we get. And we’re going to get more, as Commissioner Rho
<br />indicated, right? There’s nothing to stop us. So it is a serious matter. I really want to encourage
<br />you and the rest of the chambers to look seriously at this one. Because economically, you know,
<br />we want to thrive; and I think it can be done, if you look at it seriously and put it on your agenda
<br />for the next year or two to come up with what Commissioner Rho is asking you about. Right?
<br />It’s another way. Because this way that we’re all involved in now, history tells us it doesn’t
<br />work. And if you can find one example of where it has worked, please let me know right away.
<br />ALAMEDA: I guess that’s a question. You were going to say yes or no to that?
<br />IWASHITA: No, it wasn’t a question. I just -.
<br />ALAMEDA: Okay, rhetorical.
<br />IWASHITA: He can say he will or he won’t.
<br />SIRACUSA: I have a question.
<br />ALAMEDA: Mr. Williams, we appreciate your testimony. Fellow Commissioners,
<br />again, testifiers are not here to be ridiculed or, you know, made subject of -. They’re just here to
<br />provide testimony; and I want to respect, you know, I don’t want a testifier to be scared of
<br />coming. So we don’t want to set a precedent here. So if you have a genuine question, please ask
<br />it. Commissioner Siracusa? Go ahead, Commissioner Siracusa.
<br />SIRACUSA: Okay. The Subdivision Code was written and passed in 1975. I know that
<br />in my community when I moved to Pahoa in 1975 I could walk down the middle of the street in
<br />the middle of the day, from one end of town to the other, and not see a single car in either
<br />direction. Now I can stand and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait until there is enough let up in
<br />the traffic that I can make a dash across. To my mind there have been an awful lot of changes
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