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YUEN:It’s just legalese. <br />ALAMEDA:It’s a fancy term. I wanted to make sure we all know what that meant. <br />IWASHITA:It’s redundant. <br />GALDONES:All that means is to stop. <br />ALAMEDA:Just stop. Okay. Commissioner Graham, any other thoughts on that or <br />any potential proposal on the table? <br />GRAHAM:Well, I’m kind of following up what I was saying before. You know, the <br />other Commissioners did vote for this other operation on the other side of the highway and didn’t <br />ask them to “cease and desist.” So, you know, I’m kind of in a position, it seems to me we need <br />to decide do we want to have him shut down operation here or not, first; and then if we decide <br />we want him to do it, then we come up with a timeline. But, I mean, to me, it feels like he has <br />been forthcoming and, you know, going at this the right way; and he is obviously willing to <br />make efforts to make it better. So, you know, given his situation, I’m not so sure, and given our <br />history with these things, I’m not so sure I want to say you should cease and desist. Maybe he <br />can make this palatable is what I feel like. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. Other Commissioners feel the same way or differently? <br />Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess seems like there are several concerns that <br />have been addressed; and, to me, the bottom line is, and the most important thing is Mr. <br />McNicoll’s business, part of what he’s doing and not so much his hobby, you know. ‘Cause that, <br />those, in my mind the way I was taught to think, you know, you put things in the boxes that they <br />belong in; and it seems to me that those are two different boxes. So as far as his business <br />operation and, you know, Commissioner Graham is correct, his delivery business is essentially <br />along the lines of the same trucking business that we approved in Waimea in Ag land. And it <br />seems, the representation is that although you would think there’ll be more existing places <br />available for Mr. McNicoll to run his business, his representation is that there aren’t anything <br />financially feasible for him to move to. And I guess what I’m seeing the application asking is to <br />approve his being able to keep his delivery vehicles over, you know, store them overnight on this <br />property, have his employees come to the property, start out their runs, and come back in the <br />evening, and then do oil changes and check the spark plugs and those kind of things, wash the <br />vehicles, maintain them on site. And it’s not to do any kind of mechanical repairing, not drop <br />trans and do those kind of things on site, which are basically what we approved with certain <br />conditions in the Waimea situation. So, to that extent, I have to agree with Commissioner <br />Graham that, you know, it’s very similar and the circumstances are similar. Well, they’re not the <br />same because in the Waimea situation the operator had an industrial site from which he was <br />operating where he was being evicted and couldn’t find another site; and, so, he wanted to use <br />this land that he had purchased in Waimea to do that. Right? <br />So that’s how I see it. And then the concerns about the junk yard part of it, I guess, those to me <br />should be just dealt with in the ordinary, the way that the Department ordinarily deals with that, <br />EXHIBIT D <br />17 <br /> <br />