2023-06-02 DRAFT Joint Meeting Exh B (Proposed Amendments to PC Rules 8 & 9)

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However, I'm not sure, I don't have a proposed solution or amendment to offer at this time. I'm just not comfortable with waiving public testimony as proposed. LIN: Okay, is there a specific section that you're calling out in Rule 9 or a specific issue — [indecipherable crosstalk] PAISHON-DUARTE: If you'd like to go to recess, I can take a look and if it's going to be about me trying, if I need to provide more substantive feedback then I'm going to request the recess. So, I can take a look at all of the information that's been presented over email. LIN: Okay, I also see that Vice Chair DeFranco has her hand up. Go ahead. DEFRANCO: Yes, hi. I just wanted to tell you I felt we went from a motion on the table there where we could discuss what's happening and it moved to me way too quickly into voting on this. I didn't think that we allowed ourselves discussion and that would be the time that we could share those questions of what was working and what wasn't working with all of this. Not to be critical but that's just how I felt. I felt we really didn't discuss amongst each other on how everyone was feeling, what was really happening. So, I have to appreciate that Mahina, excuse me, Commissioner Paishon-Duarte is feeling this way and I don't like personally being pressured in any way either to look at things. But I can understand from listening to all the people that spoke that they were worried about this ability of the Planning Director to not have. Is it public testimony, Commissioner Duarte, was that it? Was that the Rule 9 that you— PAISHON-DUARTE: Yes. DEFRANCO: Yeah. PAISHON-DUARTE: Yes, correct. DEFRANCO: And that was brought up by a lot of people and there's just that sort of feeling of fear of not having the community empowered in making the decisions. But, on the other hand, I also heard quite clearly about how there's only a few instances that this actually wouldn't be going to a public hearing. So, in most instances if anything is going to be done in any of the shoreline SMA places it is going to have a public hearing and public scrutiny and it's only in a very minimal sense that the Planning Director would even ever execute the idea that there wouldn't be a public hearing. At least that's my understanding but and I'm not sure if we could even at this time discuss this. I'm not sure if I'm still in order, so I just wanted to say this. LIN: Yeah, so, thank Vice Chair DeFranco. I think at this point, we would need to have another motion on the table to have discussion and I believe — DEFRANCO: Okay, I would like to make a motion to have some discussion here amongst all of us to make sure that we're all feeling comfortable with everything. I need a second then I guess. 10 EXHIBIT B (DRAFT)