2023-06-02 DRAFT Joint Meeting Exh B (Proposed Amendments to PC Rules 8 & 9)

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PAISHON-DUARTE: Second, Paishon-Duarte. DEFRANCO: Okay, we have a motion on the table then do we. We that happen, where are we — LIN: I heard you but if you could repeat your motion. DEFRANCO: Yeah, my motion is sort of table where we're at in this process and make a motion to discuss to move us backwards a little bit to discuss amongst each other. So it isn't resting on someone's boat. I don't know how you want me to put it. I make a motion to open a discussion before we finish the vote. SALAS-FERGUSON: Good morning Chair, Vice Chair DeFranco. This is Sinclair Salas- Ferguson, Deputy Corporation Counsel. So, I have a few suggestions. What I'm seeing is that Commissioner Paishon-Duarte has some further concerns with I think it's in Rule 8-10, the waiver of public hearing and action. I think that was her concerns. So, what we can do I think the best way to satisfy everyone's interests is it seems like some Commissioners have more questions on 8-10. So, the previous motion to approve the amendments failed. So, we're back at square one. So, I think if the Commissioners have more questions about that right now would be the time to ask those questions and then once the Commissioners have finished asking all of their questions of the Department regarding that specific section or any other section that any Commissioner has in questions about. Then somebody can make a motion to either approve the amendments or deny the amendments and once that's seconded then the Commissioners can discuss the amendments and then they can make further amendments to the motion. For example, all these amendments that are put before the Commission today. The Commission doesn't have to accept or deny all of them together, they can accept some and deny some and also the Commission can suggest further amendments to the proposed amendments. But if those further amendments substantially alter the amendments as they are right now, we'd have to provide further notice to the public and continue decision making on those amendments. So, right now I suggest that you guys go back into fact finding and ask the Department to clarify any concerns that you may have. DEFRANCO: Thank you, those were some things that I didn't know we had options, so appreciate that. LIN: Okay, so, Commissioners any further questions for staff? Go ahead Commissioner Paishon-Duarte. PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you and thank you to all the staff for helping to guide us to this conversation today. Director Kern if I might ask you. Can you please again, how is the proposed amendment to waive a public testimony while it's very far and few between instances where this will come into effect. How will this benefit the public and how will this benefit you as Director and how will this benefit the public? 11 EXHIBIT B (DRAFT)