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MIRANDA:Yeah, I had them plant, they planted I think 25 or 30 koa trees; and <br />I plan to plant a lot more. <br />IWASHITA:Sounds like youve been talking to Mr. Tulang before you came <br />here today. <br />MIRANDA:No, not really, not about trees. He just brought that up and caught <br />me off guard and Im thinking you know what, we did this already. So hes like one step <br />slow. <br />IWASHITA:Its not a contest, Mr. Miranda. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA:Yes.Iwantedtoclarifysomethingthatyouweresayingaboutthe <br />ALISH, I guess, the ALISH soil maps, and I didnt know that they did it. A lot of it, the <br />designations is from the air, from aerial inspections. I know on my own property there <br />are places where I have little hills and then the flat area down below is deep soil and <br />tillable, simply because there has been a lot of silting coming down during our heavy <br />rains. I get 200 inches a year. So I know that on the tops of the hills its a lot rockier <br />because soil has washed off; and down at the base its siltier. So I wonder how can they <br />designate a whole large area when there seems to be variations even within one parcel as <br />to whether its tillable or not. <br />TULANG:I appreciate that comment. To look at the property, I walked the <br />whole length of the road to look at the soil profile; and it varies. Someone did it very <br />accurately because its a very stoney area, very shallow soils and very stoney. This is <br />why they stayed out of there. <br />SIRACUSA:So then it really is only suitable for pasture is what youre saying? <br />TULANG:Oh, yeah, thats no doubt in my mind. <br />SIRACUSA:Okay, and that would be for horses, as well as cattle, or other -? <br />TULANG:Sure. <br />SIRACUSA:Smaller grazing animals? <br />TULANG:Right. <br />SIRACUSA:Okay. In the Directors recommendations on page 2, he refers to <br />this as an irreversible non-agricultural use. To me it appears, and Im a farmer, that <br />Mr. Miranda is providing definite needed services to the agricultural community and that <br />its not a nonagricultural use. What I have a question about, and I guess I should direct it <br />to Mr. Yuen, is if this Commission decides to approve and wants to impose conditions, <br />18EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />