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MIRANDA:I have a PUC license. Im not a contractor. I dont have any
<br />contractors license. I was kind of wondering if the Planning Commission wanted to give
<br />our contractors license. If theyd like to give me one, maybe Id get into that business.
<br />No, its, truthfully, you know, because Ive been an ag hauler, and thats what I am.
<br />MCCALL:Okay, actually, one -.
<br />ALAMEDA:Go ahead, Commissioner McCall.
<br />MCCALL:Im not sure whether its a question to Mr. Miranda. Just for my
<br />information, I think, primarily but in the agricultural industry you can get an exemption
<br />to do, if you are supposedly primarily say a farmer you can use your equipment to do
<br />hauling without a PUC license? Is that correct? But you choose to get a PUC license, or
<br />isthatyourprimary,youareprimarilyahauler?
<br />MIRANDA:Youknow,yearsagowhenIstartedmybusinessin82,in83,the
<br />first time I went on the pier and pulled a container out for an ag guy I had the PUC
<br />jumping down my throat. The wanted to charge me fines. And every, about ten truckers
<br />on this island were all against me. And all I wanted to do was earn a living for me and
<br />my family. And you know what, for 22 years it has been an up and down roller coaster.
<br />Every time I get going and I think nobody is going to bother me, somebody else does.
<br />And being, well, a Planning Commission or Planning Department back in 1990 I guess, I
<br />had problems when I lived right next to Nani Waimea Street on 5 acres and I had to go
<br />through, well, I got letters saying that they wanted to charge me $1,000 a day fine for
<br />parking my trucks on my property; and I went days I couldnt sleep. Okay? And I had to
<br />go through, get support. Then I had Sandy Schutte, was my attorney representing me;
<br />and she researched the thing and finally found that everybody in ag, all the farmers on
<br />Maui, all the farmers in Waimea and Volcano, and most of the ranchers were all breaking
<br />the law because they couldnt park their equipment on their own land. And that loophole
<br />was solved. And I got a special permit to park my trucks on my property on Kahuakea
<br />Street, which theres a tow company now called Tow Guys, they bought the property
<br />after I got divorced. Okay, and then I moved to Parker Ranch, the old Parker Ranch; and
<br />I rented that space for, I think, nine or almost ten years. And like I said, then they gave it
<br />away to the hospital. And because of the Holoholoku development they didnt want a
<br />trucking business on that road because they were afraid to get sued by the Community
<br />Association. So they asked me if I would like to move out to West Hawaii Concrete; and
<br />I did. They had a 5-acre parcel there. I moved there, and I was there four months, well,
<br />really I moved there in June, or the end of June and in December they asked me to move.
<br />Why? Ill tell you why. Because they rented it to Glover Construction to put up the AC
<br />plant and Glover was going to rent the whole 5 acres and they get more money. So they
<br />asked me to leave. But cost me over $20,000 to move there. And I just put in the phone
<br />and electricity; and I had to go get engineer stamps to put the electricity in. The phone
<br />lines were all disconnected. I had to pull strings to get the phone in there. And I just had
<br />it, I got the phone and electricity like in September and that cost me over $5,000; and
<br />December I had to move out. You know, as a small businessman, its tough. And I said,
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