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Department and be able to answer those kinds of questions. But what you’re saying is absolutely <br />correct in that just because the Zoning Code has been amended to allow something, if it does, in <br />fact, violates covenants and if those covenants are enforceable, the judge can say that <br />notwithstanding what the Zoning Code says it’s not, the judge is not going to allow it. <br />PUBLIC:Mr. Chair, may I say something? <br />ALAMEDA:No, you may not. Sorry, your testimony is over. Once you give <br />testimony, see you in Hilo, once you give testimony, that’s your chance. So you want to think <br />about all the -. <br />PUBLIC:All my comments -. <br />ALAMEDA:Yeah, I’m sorry. That’s going to be out of order. I apologize for that, sir. <br />You may want to bring it up in Hilo’s meeting, though. Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:Oh, no follow-up. I just wanted to hopefully put on the record and point <br />out that, you know, in spite of this, the public, to some degree, does have recourse, assuming <br />they have, like in this case, a protective covenant. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. Other comments? Okay. Moving forward, our next -. What’s our <br />next step? Okay, so in terms of this particular agenda item, we’ll revisit it at our next meeting in <br />Hilo or –? <br />YUEN:Just, Jeff McCall had a question I thought we -. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. <br />YUEN:Just to briefly explain my own thinking on this. I always, I get to the, I <br />think ahead to the end result; and the end result I think as a community is that we want to have <br />facilities like this and we want to have them ultimately in residential areas. So the question is <br />what is the process? I have to say that I can’t think of any reason why it would be better in one <br />neighborhood, if you look at the range of residential neighborhoods, why it would be better in <br />one neighborhood than another? I haven’t heard any reason to tell me why it’s worse to have <br />this in Keaau Ag Lots than in Paradise Park, or Piihonua, or Wainaku, or Kaumana. You <br />introduce a use permit process, for one thing you’ve been there. You can, a neighbor can request <br />a Contested Case Hearing. We have what typically involves attorneys.It can involve an appeal <br />to Circuit Court after a decision on the Contested Case Hearing. It has often been a process <br />that’s, that even to get back to the Commission is nine months; and then the appeal to court can <br />be another nine months. You’re introducing a process that makes it much more difficult to <br />establish these kinds of facilities. And I say I don’t see, the objections that I hear from, apart <br />from the covenants which are a private matter and not something that we could consider, I don’t <br />see a reason why you would say it’s good in one kind of neighborhood and not good in any kind <br />of neighborhood. <br />ALAMEDA:Follow-up? <br />EXHIBIT D <br />24 <br /> <br />