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YUEN:Right. <br />MCCALL:And it would need approval from Department of Health, some sort of <br />permits of some sort? <br />YUEN:Right. <br />MCCALL:And was there any opportunity for the public to weigh in on something <br />like this? <br />YUEN:Not for five, no. <br />MCCALL:If there was for more than five, it’ll be possible but they would need to get <br />a use permit or -? <br />YUEN:The Keaau Ag Lots being in a State Land Use Ag District, they could <br />apply for a special permit for more than five; and that would be like the special permits we’ve <br />seen here, public hearing notice to the surrounding areas and the like. <br />MCCALL:So with the current situation, for instance, as with sort of the letters written <br />there, if they wanted to do it, they could apply for a special permit and go that route? <br />YUEN:That’s correct, yes. They could run a program with up to five people, <br />unrelated persons in the home. They could request a special permit to go beyond that. This <br />would allow up to eight unrelated persons plus program staff, as a matter of right. And just to <br />follow-up on the last question, we had met with the Department of Health well over a year ago <br />and agreed to do a definition change like this because we believe that it’s very important to have <br />these kinds of programs and to allow them in residential areas, rather than in the few commercial <br />areas we have. And they are not meant to be institutional in nature, they should be run out of a <br />home. So we had met with them and agreed to do this amendment. It took some time for us to <br />actually get to doing it. It would apply to the Keaau Ag Lots, but it would apply to a lot of other <br />areas as well. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Watanabe and then Commissioner Siracusa? <br />WATANABE:All right. I have a procedural question for Mr. Torigoe. I’m not going to <br />open this up to debate. I think I already know the answer but, anyway, there’s no way to provide <br />a proxy for this type of thing, yeah? <br />TORIGOE:No. <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Watanabe, what do you mean by, for my own clarification <br />but -? <br />EXHIBIT D <br />4 <br /> <br />