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example, how is Mr. Dickler going to re-design his project after it’s built when it comes to light
<br />that people are going to come in the middle of the night to that heiau, a very important heiau, and
<br />leave ho`okupu or go to their ilina, their burials, and leave ho`okupu, or utilize the trail? As for
<br />Commissioner Graham’s question about the trail and its applicability with respect to the
<br />Highways Act of 1892, I would point out to you that this trail predates the construction of the
<br />Kuakini Wall. It goes underneath the Kuakini Wall. The Kuakini Wall was completed around
<br />1840, that’s quite a few years before 1892. Dr. Hahn in his report clearly states that this was a
<br />major mauka-makai route for access to and from the makai and mauka areas.
<br />So this is not just some little dinky trail; and I think Dr. Hahn would confirm, as with the folks
<br />from Na Ala Hele, that this is really quite a spectacular trail, almost one of a kind; and I applaud
<br />the Applicant for wanting to, and for agreeing to preserve this. When we get to the top portion,
<br />that’s not the kuleana of today, and that was determined in my meetings with them.
<br />And so I come to you not to be critical of this but to point out that the wall is very clear and your
<br />rule is very clear, and it just needs to be followed. Because if it isn’t, some time there’s going to
<br />be some real problem and we’re going to have another Hokulia. And I don’t espouse that, I
<br />don’t want that to happen, and I can’t imagine anybody in this room wants that to happen.
<br />So with that in mind I would like to make some recommendations and a couple of short
<br />comments. I believe that the, and I spoke to you about this with some specific numbers last time,
<br />but the heiau, the buffer around the heiau on that large complex, preserved complex, needs to be
<br />as large as possible. And I think the roadway needs to be shifted north, roadway and the parking
<br />lot. I’ve spoken to Mr. Dickler about this and he said he’s going to do exactly what they, as
<br />much as they can to make it closer to the northern boundary so there is a big buffer around there.
<br />Normally there’s a 100-foot buffer, I say normally. On a number of occasions along Alii Drive
<br />where there have been heiau, the State Historic Preservations put a 100-foot buffer around there.
<br />If we put a 100-foot buffer here, I think it’s clear that some of this couldn’t happen; and I’m not
<br />going to be so draconian as to say that that’s absolutely what has to happen. But Mr. Dickler is
<br />being, you know, sensitive to this.
<br />I think it’s extremely important, there has been quite a bit of discussion today, rightfully so about
<br />evacuation and flooding, both from mauka and from makai. And those of you who are familiar
<br />with this area know that’s exactly what happens. And these people, there’s no way for them to
<br />get to Royal Poinciana, there’s no way for them to Laaloa when the tsunami comes, or a
<br />hurricane comes, or the flooding comes from mauka because they’ll be surrounded. I know this
<br />from my own personal experience, I’ve seen it.
<br />So there was discussion today about a parkway access plan which shows a right-in and a right-
<br />out access on the adjacent Kingman property in Pahoehoe III. That road will not be built. And
<br />how do I know that and how can I make such a definitive statement? Because the property is
<br />loaded with burials. And I am a recognized lineal descendant, my third great grandparents were
<br />buried there along with other members of the family, and the Burial Council has made a
<br />decision, which was appealed but which decision was upheld by the Appeals Board, none of
<br />those burials can be moved. It’s a very narrow parcel and it’s virtually impossible. Furthermore,
<br />the abruptness of the slope, unlike the subject property, is not going to lend itself to a connection
<br />very well. So while it may show on some plans, the better choice, in my estimation, gentlemen,
<br />lady and gentlemen, is to have a one-way and make this a condition, rather than saying in the
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