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GALDONES:Commissioner Salavea? <br />SALAVEA:So, just to clarify. The issue, the core issue is that of increased traffic <br />from, generated from this project on Walua Road and its impact on your residence. Or <br />pedestrian access to Alii Drive without the current or the agreed to road improvements. <br />That€s the issue. <br />GREEN:I think that€s true. And simply that we are looking to try to improve the <br />safety of all the residents in the area. We€re not just saying we want to get on somebody€s <br />case here, we really want it to be a safer street. And, it€s more an issue of disabilities, you <br />know people who can€t get up and down the street and that€s their only method of getting to <br />town so-. <br />SALAVEA:Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Springer? <br />SPRINGER:I have a question for Mr. Torigoe. You frequently direct our attention <br />totheTOPLISSDecisionwhenitcomestodecisionmakingonanSMA.Itseemsasthough <br />this discussion is focusing on traffic issues and I€m just wondering if we need to take <br />TOPLISS into consideration as we consider this petition for standing? <br />TORIGOE:Yeah, Mr. Chair? <br />GALDONES:Mr. Torigoe? <br />TORIGOE:Let me read to you some of the wording from the TOPLISS decision <br />which as we€ve noted before is TOPLISS versus the Planning Commission of the County of <br />HawaiŸi. It€s an intermediate court of appeal HawaiŸi case. And the court says, if traffic from <br />a development within an SMA is not shown to have a substantial adverse impact on the <br />coastal environment such impact as the traffic may otherwise have on the existing roadway <br />system in the area of the development cannot be the basis for denying an SMA permit <br />application. So, basically traffic as such is not a relevant factor for an SMA application but if <br />traffic in some way shows an adverse, you know a substantial adverse impact on the coastal <br />environment then it can be, it can considered to be relevant to an SMA permit application. <br />YUEN:I think you were asking the connection between what we can consider <br />in the permit on the merits versus the question of standing. The Department would <br />recommend that the Commission vote to grant standing to the Association of Apartment <br />Owners because they do have an interest that is distinct from that of the general public. It <br />may be that when we get to the merits of the application that we€re not able to cure the <br />problem or cure satisfy what they€re trying to accomplish by asking for intervention and <br />asking for the request for standing but they do-. Our recommendation would be to grant it <br />because they do meet the criteria of having an interest that is different from that of the general <br />public. <br />EXHIBIT C <br />10 <br /> <br />