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IWASHITA:Sure. <br />TORIGOE:Well, again, treating this as a contested case basically any relevant <br />testimony you can consider. And so if you want to further probe into the extent to which the <br />Planning Director has actual experience that relate to that, well, you can do that. I think it <br />probably goes to the weight of the evidence rather than to its admissibility. And in a matter like <br />this, I think the Planning Director basically, again, would be a party; and so you can treat him as <br />such. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner -. <br />YUEN:If I could just say one thing on that. The role of the Department in <br />providing factual information, or even opinion, is different than the role of the Commissioners. <br />We,ineveryapplicationwewillprovidefactualinformationthatsometimesmaynotberight. <br />But thats what we do. And so when we talk about the Commissioners not interjecting <br />information that is not broadly known into the proceedings, theres a difference between the role <br />of the Department as staff or as party to a contested case and the Commissioners as the decision <br />makers. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:Thank you, Mr. Chair. Im going to venture into, maybe, quicksand <br />because now Im going to put on my sort of lawyer training here. The rule we have to follow is <br />Rule 14. And I have some concerns about the rule with regard to how staff and the Director are <br />factored into the implementation of the rule. And Ive gone through the eight pages that <br />constitute my copy of the rule provided to me and I find nothing in these eight pages on staffs or <br />the Directors participation in this process, nothing. All references are to the Commission and to <br />the adjuster. Okay? <br />So if, and I agree with counsel that this is a contested case type of matter that, the result of which <br />may be appealed by the applicant. And so we if want to dot our ‚isƒ and cross our ‚tsƒ and <br />make sure we peel only the right bananas, if the Director, or staff, or otherwise wants to make a <br />record, a proper record, in this contested case matter then it should be done the way its usually <br />done, by sworn testimony before the body. Otherwise it doesnt appear to me that we as a <br />Commission under Rule 14 can take anything other than the report of the adjuster and whatever <br />is actually placed on the record before us under oath into consideration in reaching whatever <br />decision we come to reach in this matter. <br />GALDONES:Mr. Yuen. <br />YUEN:Two things: first on the authority of the Director to make <br />recommendations on this matter comes from the County Charter which says that the Director <br />advises the Planning Commission on matters within their responsibility. Second, on the point of <br />whether matters should be submitted, matters like a background report, we would be happy to be <br />under oath for such matters. That has not been the general practice for the Departments <br />13 <br /> <br />