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background report to be accompanied by an oath or other affirmation, nor we -. In typical
<br />contested cases involving intervenors with formal contested cases, documents are routinely
<br />accepted, written documents are routinely accepted without being sworn to.
<br />IWASHITA:I dont have any problem accepting advice from staff and the Director.
<br />Its just in the contested case process that were involved in, my point is that thats all it is, its
<br />advice. And its not something that the Commission can rely on as evidence as part of the record
<br />in reaching its decision. Because, for example, in the Directors last letter, the Director says the
<br />sale ended his rights to the property, including the right to earn income from fruit trees. Thats
<br />advice. If we, lets say thats advice. But thats not something that the Commission can rely on,
<br />you know, as a matter of fact in this case that thats how the rule is to be read. The decision on
<br />how the rule is to be read is to be made by the Commission. The decision on how the rule is to
<br />be applied is to be made by the Commission. The advice of the Director is welcomed and can be
<br />looked at it that way, but its advice. And its not controlling and cannot be controlling of this
<br />body.
<br />And,youknow,lookingatRule14and,again,theDirectorandthestaffreallyhavenorolein
<br />the rule directly to this bodys consideration and approval of, or deference to the adjusters
<br />recommendation. You know, that whole process, its adjuster makes recommendations, the
<br />Commission either accepts it, denies it or defers. Thats the process. There is nothing in the rule
<br />itself that says, you know, basically staff or the Director has input. And I acknowledge that
<br />under the Charter the Director is required to provide advice to the Commission. But, again, you
<br />know, were working under Rule 14 and, to me, we should, thats primarily what should control
<br />our process.
<br />GALDONES:Im going to have Mr. Torigoe make a statement and Im going to call for
<br />a short recess thereafter.
<br />TORIGOE:Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just with respect to the Directors role,
<br />you know, everybody acknowledges that the Charter says that the Director advises the
<br />Commission. We also acknowledge that this should be considered a contested case. And under
<br />your Contested Case Rule 4-7 it says that, In all proceedings where the Commissions action is
<br />directly appealable to Circuit Court, including this one, the applicant and the Planning Director
<br />will be designated parties to the action. So that is, you know, the Director is a party, the
<br />Director can participate as such and can testify as such.
<br />Now Commissioner Iwashita raises a good point in that if were going to be taking testimony
<br />then at some point it would be good to swear the people who are giving that testimony if its
<br />factual. And when we have formal contested case procedures, that certainly has been the
<br />practice to swear everybody in, and also to make sure that whatever documents are properly
<br />recognized as being in evidence. In times when you dont have a real formal adversarial
<br />contested procedure going weve tended not to be that formal. But it doesnt hurt at the end, you
<br />know, when you have all the evidence in to make sure that all the parties are satisfied, that
<br />whatever they want to present is in the record, and have that designated and, if you also want to,
<br />at some point, say, you know, we have been treating this as a fairly informal proceeding by
<br />apparent consensus of the Commission and parties. But if the parties want at the end to affirm
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