2023-06-08 Salary Commission Minutes (Draft)

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Salary Commission June 8, 2023 So maybe taking a look at that list and deciding how would you recommend breaking that up and having a conversation at the next hearing, right. Do you even want to create a PIG? Do you not? If you do want to create one, maybe all of you will have slept on it, digested it, and have some ideas on how you would recommend we create those PIG's and maybe looking at this list would be beneficial because there are a good number on this list, right? So, is that something that you guys would like to table or do those of you present today, feel compelled to start creating those PIG's and see how we proceed next month? MS. NAKAMA: Teresa Nakama, District 8. Please explain the responsibility of your acronym of the PIG? MS. FRENZ: So, as 1 -this is DCC Cody. As I indicated earlier, a Permitted Interactive Group is it allows board members or Commission members, in this case, the ability to tackle some of the tasks of the entire Commission but at a smaller scale. So, in this case, it would be, for example, maybe you created two or three and you divided this list accordingly. And so, the rules in the Hawaii Revised Statutes for a permitted interactive group it's two, at least two members but not more—not quorum. So, the moment you have a quorum of board members working on an agenda item, that violates the Sunshine Law. So, in this case, five is our quorum. So, your PIG would be created between two and four members. Once this Commission voted on the creation of a PIG, it would have very specific duties. That PIG would, thereafter, be allowed to meet separately from the Commission as a whole and, kind of, divide and conquer—gather information, figure out what sort of information it would like to get, how are we going to get it, who is going to do what. The biggest rule that is connected to the PIG is you cannot in that, in those separate PIG meetings, indicate how you intend to vote. You cannot make a commitment in that PIG meeting"I intend to vote this way for that mayor's salary or that managing director salary," for example. Whatever you do in the PIG, as a smaller group, you then every subsequent month come back and report to the Commission as a whole. And so, those are some of the parameters of the PIG. So, in this case— MS. NAKAMA: Teresa Nakama. I'm not understanding still what are if we do put together a PIG what are our responsibilities and our parameters when we do research work or background check or how these figures came about. That's what I'm looking for. MS. FRENZ: So, this is DCC Cody. I can't tell you how to do your job. I have certain limitations as the legal counsel for the Commission. I'm here to provide you information and legal guidance but, ultimately, only you guys as Commission members can decide what tasks and how you want to divide that work. That's really up to you guys. Page 30