2023-07-11 Salary Commission Minutes

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Salary Commission July 11, 2023 MS. NAMAHOE: Commissioner Namahoe. I just want to clarify, we're only speaking to clarifying my this question to Commissioner Nelson. Are we just—are you recommending that we only send it to the governing authority the police commission versus the police chief? MR. NELSON: That's my suggestionI mean, we can send it to all people but, ultimately, I think that whoever the appointing authority isI mean, they can go back and they can ask the people—give me the justification why—what you think the salary is. But I think what Cody was saying, some people may not—they may not advocate for themselves or maybe over advocating for themselves. Depends. So, I think it should go to the appointing authorities and they could decide how they want to parse it out. CHR. PAVAO: I have to concur that the appointing authority is who we should be communicating with and asking for information. Asking individual employees to justify their position of their salary would be awkward at best. As a civil servant, if somebody did that to me, I would feel very uncomfortable. MS. GREENBAUM: Commissioner Greenbaum. I agree. MS. NAMAHOE: Commissioner Namahoe. One more time I'm throwing far for this one. I think that I believe that the department heads are going to be solicited by their commissions their respective commissions. They are going to be participating in this whether they're comfortable or not. I believe that they should be afforded the same opportunity because it will help decouple the expectation that they have to do the bulk of their commission's work. And I say this speaking as having sat on the fire commission previously, where I was part of the body that hired the fire chief, at that time. So, I know, what we knew, and what we didn't know. And what we would be looking at this set of lists, the first thing we would do is the following meeting we would be throwing a series of expectations at the fire chief. And then, they would let us know what they and their white shirts, which are their—I don't know how to say white -shirts in English. I can't recall what all of their job duties are, but their leadership then would be in their own scramble, but their audience would then be their bosses. Their fire commission. I bring up my suggestion based on that history where I would like to afford the chiefs their respect to defend/decline per their comfort level versus they're going to be asked, if they are not asked by us they're going to be asked by their managing commission, their managing body. CHR. PAVAO: That's the way it should be. The appointing authority can ask and then they can bring us the information but we should communicate directly to the appointing authority, in my mind. Page 22