2023-07-11 Salary Commission Minutes

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Salary Commission July 11, 2023 MS. NAKAMA: Commissioner Teresa Nakama. I'd like to concur with member Namahoe and ask the bosses of the various department their reason for an increase or decrease. MR. RIORDAN: I think we should stick with the mayor, who is the boss of the first 14 people. And then, we have the commissions—and if we have a—want to have some other discussion about that, then we could talk to the fire chief or the police chief. But it doesn't make any sense to bring in the director of parks and recreation or the director of public works because they're not the boss. The mayor is the boss. And this is Commissioner RiordanI'm sorry. But that's my feeling, is that we send the letter out to the mayor and to these commissions and say, "What do you want us to pay your people? You justify it for us." Because the mayor, also, has to talk to the finance director and find out whether he can afford anything that he is going to recommend. So, that's my suggestion. MS. FRENZ: DCC Cody. Let me throw out a third alternative that may, for your consideration, you could consider doing the email toa third alternative would be to, kind of, blend maybe a hybrid of the two, right—where you send it to the appointing authority per the requirements of the Charter, right, which is what you're tasked with doing. But open the door to the actual appointees, the heads, right the chief of police, for example—should those people also feel compelled to correspondence that they have an opening to do so as well. And either they will or they won't, right. So, maybe that's a happy medium, right? We follow the Charter requirements and ensure that we make that communication. But we also provide the chief of police, the fire chief, the corporation counsel, the mayor himself, the managing director, the department of public works, et cetera, et cetera to also have an opportunity, with that door open, to provide their own input if they want to. Maybe that's a happy medium that covers it and affords the two different mindsets here, right now. No harm, no foul—you get more information then you may want—or maybe you get nothing. I don't know. MS. GREENBAUM: Commissioner Greenbaum. I agree with you, DC Cody. I think the hybrid makes the most sense. It's a soft introduction to the chiefs and they will probably, eventually, be required to provide the information to the head department anyway. But it loops everybody in. MS. NAMAHOE: Commissioner Namahoe. Very happy with that, `cause I think that's actually what I was originally asking. But it sounds better how you just synthesized it. It allows the opportunity for them to jump in or decline, which isit will save them the double work. And thank you very much. Thank you, everyone, for allowing me to (inaudible) on this particular point. MS. GREENBAUM: Thank you for continuing to push for it, `cause it makes sense. MR. RIORDAN: This is Commissioner Riordan. I disagree with it, the hybrid. Because we're asking people to go—subordinate their bosses and say, "My boss isn't correct. I need more Page 23