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Salary Commission July 11, 2023
<br />money"—or "I don't need this money." And it's—none of us want that when our employees
<br />come to us and say, "Oh, no, you're wrong. Everybody wants more money." And so, I think we
<br />need to leave it with the commissions and the mayor and say, "Present this to us." And then,
<br />they can say, "Yes, the parks and rec. director should make less than the public works
<br />director"—and less than this or that or maybe the lawyer should make a little more money that
<br />would make Cody happy. So, anyhow, that's my opinion but.
<br />MR. NELSON: This is Nelson. I, sort of, tend to agree with that—but I do think maybe all the
<br />department heads should be copied on the request. Okay. So, basically, yeah the appointing
<br />authority has to provide the justification but the department head, the deputy head they know
<br />what's coming, so that they could go talk to their boss. Because, ultimately, there is a chain of
<br />command. And you're right, you don't want the deputies going out under their boss—it's going
<br />to be more uncomfortable than anything else, particularly, if they do it and their boss doesn't like
<br />it. Right.
<br />So, you copy them on it, then they can go talk to their boss, put their input in to the boss, and
<br />advocate for themselves first. And so, it becomes arather than the communication getting all
<br />fractured, it becomes a unified communication.
<br />MS. NAMAHOE: Commissioner Namahoe. Thank you both, Commissioners, because there's
<br />nothing in these first six questions that's addressing money. It's addressing duties.
<br />And so, my impetus for the push has been based on the types of questions we're going to ask
<br />and, again, based on history. In order for me to tell you as a fire commissioner what they're
<br />doing, I got to turn around them and ask them, "What do you guys do?" So, I'm liking the
<br />direction we're all going in. Thank you.
<br />MS. NAKAMA: Commissioner Teresa Nakama. I'm not sure where the past commissioners
<br />have gone with increases, but I have a piece of paper, I don't know where I got it from—but it
<br />talks about current salary, new salary, raises, and the percentage. And I'll just—I'll pass this on
<br />to Chairman Pavao. But it says managing director at 119 and a proposed new salary of
<br />153,611.00a raise of 34,600 or 7-607, which is a 29.1 increase in their salary.
<br />Do we have the information of the past salary commission on the work that they did in the
<br />proposals of increases? I'll share this with Chairman Pavao. Please pass.
<br />MS. FRENZ: This is DCC Cody. Yes, everything that the prior salary commission did is all
<br />available online. So, if you go to the County of Hawaii website, you'll find a link that's for
<br />boards and commissions. Within boards and commissions, there will be the salary commission.
<br />And if you go to the year 2018, you'll be able to see everything that they've done including all
<br />the minutes, their conversations—and that's information that I provided and talked with you
<br />guys—well, most of you about—during our new board member orientation, so that it's important
<br />to see what your predecessors did before you. Do you like what they did? Do you not like what
<br />they did? And the Honolulu City and County salary commission is an amazing tool for you to
<br />consider because they just did this, this year, right. You can see what they got a little pushback
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