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Management Administrator to a Mr. Harvey Kodama, who was the trustee for the Kona Hills Estate. Notwithstanding that and, you know, we donÓt want to concede that itÓs a government road or not a government road. But I think just purely from a land use standpoint, you know, weÓre suggesting that itÓs an appropriate land use. And if it is an issue that has to be addressed relative to the name or like getting further consent from the government, you know, be it the State or the County, you know, that can be done in conjunction with the subdivision process. SPRINGER:Mr. Chair? FUJIKAWA:Go ahead, Commissioner Springer. SPRINGER:Going from roads to plants but maybe Kawila can be the segue. On page 3 of the Background Report, under Item 15, Flora and Fauna Resources, there is no mention of the native species which are mentioned in Dr. RechtmanÓs report which include the lama and the alaheÒe. So just for our own reading, our Background Report, page 3, No. 15, doesnÓt pick up the species that Dr. Rechtman lists in his archaeological report; and those specifies are lama and alaheÒe. FUJIKAWA:Are there any other questions from the Commissioners to the Applicant or -? Go ahead, Commissioner Graham. GRAHAM:This is not so much the Applicant but maybe Corporation C on the larger issue brought up by Judge Ibarra yesterday. It does seem like weÓre in the same ballpark as to what he was dealing with at Hokulia, where we have State ag-zoned land thatÓs being increased in density for primarily residential purposes even though, without a change in the State land use designation. So I think the specifics of this application are very different. ThereÓs more opportunity for agricultural use, thereÓs a whole pattern of residential use in the area and all. However, it does feel like the underlining issue is brought to the fore in this application as well. So I was just wondering before we issue any recommendation whether you could c what you know in just the past few days the applicability of Judge IbarraÓs determinations respective to this particular situation. MASUDA:Unfortunately, no. I havenÓt fully digested the Hokulia decision. We only got it yesterday. Just by a brief reading, though, it seems like, you know, how they say that wasnÓt specifics. I think thatÓs what distinguishes Hokulia from this case, is that itÓs in the details that it is different. But like I said, too, I donÓt think anybody, at this point, really has a grasp of what the decision is going to go, how itÓs going to be implemented later. GRAHAM:So given the details and the specifics, itÓs not uncomfortable for you if we were to move ahead and allow for this higher density, even though we are in the State Land Use Ag category? 16