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DARROW:Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As mentioned, we had received the <br />letter from the Petitioners in the contested case informing us that they will not be able to <br />make the hearing. As discussed earlier on the previous application, this would be a good <br />opportunity to be able to minimize costs and be able to have the Commission hear this <br />particular contested case hearing and be able to take care of the issues in-house. <br />GALDONES:Commissioners, what you will be acting upon today is the request <br />that we hear this, put this on the agenda at the next Hilo meeting and the Planning <br />Commission become the hearing officer for this because there€s not going to be a hearing <br />officer. So that€s the action that you will be acting upon. Commissioner McCall? <br />MCCALL:Just to be clear, the contested case hearing still needs to proceed, <br />cause they have not withdrawn their contested case. They€re just saying that they€re not <br />going to participate in it. Is that correct? <br />GALDONES:That is correct. <br />MCCALL:Okay. Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Further discussion? Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Well, I€m trying to understand how it can go on if they€re not <br />participating. Because a contested case involves some give-and-take, you know, cross- <br />examination of witnesses, isn€t that correct? <br />GALDONES:Mr. Yuen. <br />SIRACUSA:Then it€s only one-sided and it€s not a contested case. <br />YUEN:Well, we tend to use the word, the term contested case‚ only <br />when there€s an Intervenor; but, actually, to be technical about it, all of these permit <br />applications are contested cases. It€s just that without an Intervenor, we do it informally; <br />and the only parties are the, the County is actually a party, the Planning Director is a <br />party, and the Applicant then is a party. And so the County, the Applicant has witnesses, <br />the County has witnesses and exhibits, people from the public can come up and testify. <br />The County, the Commissioners and the Applicant can cross-examine. The Applicant, <br />for example, has a right to question our staff or myself about things that we may say. So <br />that€s cross-examination. And then when you come out with your decision, if it€s adverse <br />to the Applicant, the Applicant actually has the right to appeal that to court because this is <br />a contested case. If it wasn€t, they wouldn€t have a right to appeal. And if the <br />Department was opposed to the permit and the Commission granted it, then the <br />Department would have the right to appeal to court. <br />So, in this case, you have a party that has requested intervention; and, so, normally, then <br />we go into this more formal mode. We could actually, and we€ve talked about this, have <br />the contested case hearing, formal contested case hearing, right there at the same day and <br />2 <br /> <br />