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EMLER: As far as your, oh, IÓm sorry -. <br />WATANABE: I donÓt want to get too technical in this here, so -. Mr. Housel. <br /> <br />HOUSEL: I guess that was my question. Are the roadways proposed in this <br />subdivision consistent with the roadways in Pualani Estates? <br /> <br />EMLER: I would say no. The answer to that is no because, well, the roads in <br />Pualani Estates have fairly straight alignment, larger curves, itÓs 50 feet wide, fully developed <br />right-of-way with curb, gutter and sidewalk; this one obviously is showing landscaping in the <br />right-of-way, which unless it was approved specifically by that ordinance, would have to be <br />approved by the Planning Director through the PUD process Î itÓs a variance process. So that <br />would be something that would be under the jurisdiction of the Planning Director to make that <br />discretionary decision whether that would be acceptable, if the condition is that the roadways be <br />dedicable. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Okay, I have a follow-up question to that, though, because originally you <br />said connector roads generally are 60 feet and it seemed like you indicated Pualani is 50 feet. <br /> <br />EMLER: Collector roads are 60 feet. Collector roads, itÓs a class of roadway <br />defined in the Subdivision Code and other national standard design guidelines. Collector road is <br />something that not only serves as a connecting road between properties but also serves adjacent <br />properties Î thatÓs basically the definition of a collector road. In this case the adjacent roadways <br />are 50-foot wide right-of-way; it does not meet the minimum standard of a collector roadway in <br />the Subdivision Code, although it does connect through. One also might use the term Ðminor <br />roadÑ but -. IÓm not sure IÓm answering your question fully. <br /> <br />WATANABE: And so the proposed roads in here are, what, 50 or 60 feet roadways? <br /> <br />EMLER: After, well, I think that is something that the developerÓs representative <br />should answer. IÓve only scaled them, and so I think I know based on the scale; but I think <br />specifically they should answer the question. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Okay. Mr. Lim, you did indicate that youÓre still in negotiations with <br />Public Works; so maybe you can enlighten us. <br /> <br />LIM: Right, thatÓs correct. You know, as you realize this is at the State Land <br />Use and the County Zoning stage where you donÓt design roadways -. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Right, right, I understand. <br /> <br />LIM: But the proposal is to use the Planned Unit Development tool to address, I <br />mean, how do I word this, the roads that are not the north-south connector road. And the reason <br />why youÓre seeing -. This is a revised concept plan; weÓve met with Mr. Emler numerous times <br />and one of the things he did raise or he wanted us to move the connection to Huallai Road from <br />where we had it originally here to the area thatÓs further mauka, which provides the best sight <br />EXHIBIT A <br />12 <br /> <br />