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can’t do that without – 30 agricultural workers in a home in Ocean View – we said you can’t do that without getting a special permit. And you know, the special permit might have been denied due to not really being suitable for the neighborhood area. But I do think we, and there is a need for this kind of agricultural housing in Kona.They would have to be their employees but they could be used by other farmers on a contract basis to pick their coffee. WATANABE: Mr. Woodward. WOODWARD: I might ask the Director another question then. If they are going to essentially hire out their workers, this is a contract labor business. Correct? I mean, I’m sure they are going to make a profit; they wouldn’t do it if they couldn’t. So we are essentially giving them the right to have a contract labor business. Is that correct? YUEN: Yes, you can say that. And another agricultural property that dealt with the impacts that potentially would be created and brought a special permit forward would have the same opportunity. WATANABE: Any further questions for staff? Yes, Mr. Domingo. DOMINGO: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Yuen, then these people will be governed under the same provisions of the other law which governs contract labors that we have, essentially only contract labors or employees, for various employers in the County? YUEN: I’m not sure what laws -. Are you talking about overall labor laws? DOMINGO: Labor laws and -. YUEN: Like minimum wage -? DOMINGO: And requirements like, for instance, I know of several so-called agencies, which people would go to and apply for jobs and they would place them in various locations depending on their skill and the need for their skill. YUEN: All other normal laws apply, like minimum wage, OSHA, sanitation; all those kinds of laws still apply to these workers. There is also a federal program that authorizes visas for agricultural workers and they would have to follow the terms of that program. I know that one of the things they want to do, if they go into that program, the federal and state governments have certain requirements; they have minimum standards for housing. So that’s the housing requirement that we have here is if they meet those minimum standards. DOMINGO: Since we are discussing this issue, as you mentioned, the standards by the federal government provides for 50 square feet for a bedroom space and they would have a centralized kitchen and bathroom facilities -. YUEN: Yes, that’s allowed. EXHIBIT B 4