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IWASHITA: Mr. Tyler, can I ask if you disclosed the names of the people that <br />you believe should have been interviewed to the applicant or the applicant’s consultant <br />that did the cultural impact report that you looked at? <br />GRAHAM: Can all the Commissioners hear? <br />IWASHITA: I’m sorry -. <br />TYLER: I’m sorry. <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Tyler, go ahead. <br />TYLER: Okay, thank you. Well, I, certainly you’re looking at one of them. <br />And there are others who are perhaps more familiar with the area than even I who for <br />whatever reasons, and some of them are stated in the impact assessment, were not able to <br />be contacted. My impression is that, was and is that the background information and the <br />persons who were interviewed were really more from a different area of Kona, rather <br />than people who would have first-hand knowledge of it or, in fact, were descendants of <br />properties immediately adjacent to or in connection with this property, recognized <br />descendants. So that was the point. And I don’t think it’s productive personally, sir, with <br />all respect to your question, to get into personalities about this or individuals. It’s my <br />impression, and I’m just giving you my impression. And I don’t want this to be a <br />reflection on the two gentlemen sitting on either side of me because I don’t believe that <br />they set out to have this happen at all. And I very much appreciate their efforts to try to <br />get this done in a way that’s pono. Thank you. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Tyler. <br />TYLER: You’re welcome. <br />GRAHAM: Anything further? <br />IWASHITA: Just a follow-up. <br />GRAHAM: Commissioner Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. My impression then of your testimony <br />is that because of the failure to interview the correct people that the cultural impact <br />assessment is deficient, and if anything it should be supplemented with interviews with <br />the correct people? <br />TYLER: No, I -. <br />IWASHITA: And, Mr. Tyler, maybe I’ll just clarify. Because, you know, you’re <br />correct that we’re bound by the law and the decisions of the Supreme Court in what we <br /> EXHIBIT B <br />15 <br /> <br />