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Mr. James Richards I believe was the Executive secretary for the conference. What I found out about the sale of this property and I went down to visit the house was already built. And I found out from a family member whose ancestors are buried in site A. So I went straight down and, to see what was going on and Daniel Ibbetson came out, I told him who I was and my first concern was the site of B, which is where my family is buried. So his house actually is right located between both site A and site B. Okay so I couldnt see the grave so I mentioned to him that do you know that theres gravesites in front of your house? And so he invited me in, we went through his house on the swimming pool where you would look down cause he had back filled where the pool is I would say about 5 to 6 feet. So now youre actually looking down into site B. Okay at that time I also noticed that because of the fill material that he had brought in or whether he had excavated to level the lot he had used these walls as his retaining wall. At that point I did not say anything because I had no idea what was going on. All I know was there was this house now and this cemetery. So Mr. Ibbetson then mentioned to me that it was our responsibility to maintain the graves and which he pointedtositeA.AndIsaidwellmyfamilysinsiteBandatthattimehetoldmeno, nobody comes to site B, hes going to maintain that. And again I did not argue because I did not know what was going on. But in me, to me that wasnt right. You know that, where my ancestors are buried the families, the descendants would always have the right to go. But I didnt say anything and I told him that you know thats where my family is buried and he insisted that no that hes going to take care, maintain the grave. And I could understand why, its because this site is in front of his house where his entertainment area is. Okay so what I did after that was try to get information. I called family members and nobody knew what had happened. I called the burial counsel and was told that he did call or he went in and he was told that he needed to contact the descendents of those buried there and to hold a meeting as to what his plans are and an agreement had to be made before anything can be done. Okay none of our family was notified. Okay, I started calling members in site A cause I know who those families are too. I spoke with Nancy Eta Haalilio who Mr. Ibbetson mentioned was the Kahu of the church. However she is not the Kahu of this church, shes a Kahu of Pukaana. I called Nancy Eta and I told Nancy Eta that, do you know that cemetery down Kaohe, Hou Ikeana? And she said yes. So I said, do you know theres a house there? And she said yes Mr. Dan Ibbetson. So I said, so you knew about this. And she said yeah. So I said well how come nobody notified our family who are the graves makai. She said they knew there were graves but they didnt who it belonged to. Okay so I started doing more search. I did not have the surveyors map by John Weeks or the deed. What had happened was Im a member of Central Kona Union Church, which is under the Hawaii Conference. And there was a special meeting held at another sister church Lanakila. And I was invited by my dad to come and listen in and what it was, was a associate pastor from the Hawaii Conference had come over. There were some problems at the church so I went to listen and during this meeting he mentioned church lands and old sites. So which got my attention. So after the meeting I approached him. I introduced myself. And I told him that there was this cemetery down south that was sold by the conference. He said no that couldnt be true. I said it did I talked to the owner now. He still insisted that no that couldnt have happened. However he said hell be back in 2 weeks. Hell go back to the conference, do some research and hell answer me in 2 weeks. Well he came back in 2 weeks with the deed from the conference and the surveyors map. So after looking through the deed and the sites I thought itd be, it was really a legal matter for-. In my opinion the cemetery shouldnt have been sold in the first place. EXHIBIT E 10