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GRAHAM:Thank you. <br />IBBETSON:All right. <br />SPRINGER:Other Commissioners questions for the applicant? At this time I€d like <br />to ask Misters Matsukawa and Kaiawe to come forward please. Commissioners, Mr. Kaiawe <br />is the petitioner for standing in this contested case hearing and Mr. Matsukawa is his <br />representative. You€ve both been sworn in. Could you please give us your names and <br />addresses and then whomever is going to speak first please do so. <br />MATSUKAWA:Okay. My name is Mike Matsukawa. My address is 75-5751 Kuakini <br />Highway, Kailua-Kona. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. <br />KAIAWE:My nameisDean Kaiawe. My address is P.O. Box 762, Captain Cook, <br />Hawaii.MyphysicalisinKaoheIII;there€sakuleanawithintheahupuaa. <br />SPRINGER:Thankyouboth.RightnowweneedtoaddressthePetitionfor <br />Standing which is before us from Mr. Kaiawe. Commissioners you€ve had a chance to review <br />that application do you have any questions for Mr. Kaiawe? Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE:I guess my main question for standing would be, how are you related? <br />KAIAWE:Okay. The grantor of this parcel, the cemetery parcel was my great <br />grandmother. Okay in 1915 she had deeded this parcel, which I have a copy of the deed to the <br />Hawaiian Evangelical Association, which today€s known as the Hawaii Conference <br />Foundation. Prior to this, this whole ahupuaa and this kuleana€s bill was in the family from <br />Kamehameha IV and I have documents that trace back from Kamehameha the IV all the way <br />to my grandfather. What happened was in 1915, I would think before that. There was <br />actually, within this ahupuaa on the point of this ahupuaa was the original church and school <br />site down at the beach. According to my grandmother when the village people moved up to <br />the roadway the school had moved, which is not Alae School and the church had moved to <br />relocate because everybody had moved up. At that time the church had asked my great <br />grandmother for a piece of her property to be used as a church to relocate the church. And <br />that€s when we found out these deeds. This is for the cemetery. The church is mauka side of <br />the road and there was about 3 separate deeds that she had given to the Hawaiian Evangelical <br />Association between the years 1905 to 1915. However now this particular parcel is a <br />cemetery where Mikala my great grandmother, her husband and her children are buried, <br />which is located in site B. I was told by my grandma and where this site was located because <br />yeah it was overgrown at one time; there was Christmas berry trees. And when I found out <br />about it my grandma gave me directions to the place and exactly to the foot is where I found <br />it. And so I went down to clear it up to put flowers. And I had written letters to the Hawaii <br />Conference Foundation that because it was neglected, that the family was interested in the <br />Foundation to survey the place so we know what the boundaries are so we could go down and <br />start cleaning it. But nobody responded and at that time, I believe it was in 1990 and it was <br />EXHIBIT E <br />9 <br /> <br />