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months sometimes, and it costs thousands of dollars. And, you k
<br />required to at least go get, go comply with the rule, you know, pay the dollar, get a notary
<br />to authenticate the signature. Thank you. Or at least plan enough in advance that you
<br />can do that.
<br />FUJIKAWA:Any other question, Commissioners? I have a question with
<br />Corp. Counsel. Now, if IÓm in Canada and IÓm an American citizen, can the Canadian
<br />government notarize my paperwork or does it have to be American Consul?
<br />OÓTOOLE:Frankly, I donÓt know. But I had assumed for what Mr. T
<br />was saying is that he was going to an American Embassy to get it notarized, and thus it
<br />would be recognized here.
<br />FUJIKAWA:Thank you. Mr. Tsukazaki?
<br />TSUKAZAKI:Yes, thatÓs what I said. Again, the board members, the officers,
<br />who are, would be authorized to sign something like this are all out-of-state; and, at that
<br />particular time, Mr. Gilsdorf, the president, was in Canada. So there were problems.
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<br />By the way, for the record, our firm was retained on July 22 and thereafter prepared this
<br />document, sent it to the Managing Agent to go ahead and make sure people signed, and it
<br />got notarized. And so it was, the difficulty arose when it was discovered that the
<br />president was not in California where he lives, that he was in Canada. So after it was
<br />clear that it was going to take several days to get something back from him, they went,
<br />you know, they went and got the treasurer to sign.
<br />For the record, see, I think what Corp. Counsel was saying was right. You know, whatÓs
<br />the real beef here? If thereÓs a question about whether the association authorized people
<br />to take action on this, that, you know, that can be substantiated right now or at the
<br />hearing. As counsel to this association, IÓm telling you that weÓve received written
<br />confirmation and instructions to proceed with this. I do have something in the file, in
<br />writing, that indicates that. I do have something in the file that indicates that the board
<br />had a meeting, that thereÓs minutes of a board meeting in which they authorized this
<br />action. So if the Commission would like, we can submit all of t
<br />record. But, again, the issue is whether an acknowledgment saying that Mr. Gilsdorf is
<br />Mr. Gilsdorf, how that stands in the face of what did this particular property ownerÓs
<br />legal rights are, I really donÓt see that a technicality can legally bar this association from
<br />participating.
<br />So we ask you to look through the arguments. And I believe that, you know, if there is
<br />serious concern about the legality, you know, what the, what HawaiÒi law is on this, that
<br />the parties be given a chance to submit something to you. However, I do believe that
<br />Corp. Counsel has, you know, laid out what, I think, is the appropriate course of action,
<br />the proper way to look at this.
<br />FUJIKAWA:Thank you. Director?
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