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Now there are different ways of doing this. One is called biorational, in which the golf course <br />will not use any toxic or synthetic, the petrochemical pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, and no <br />fertilizers that will leach, and that technology is here It's not something that's brand new, <br />although it's being improved every year. And there are golf courses throughout the United <br />` <br />States and even, I've learned today, in Hawaii that are biorational, and I hope by the time we <br />meet again you'll have all this information because we intend to keep you informed. So we're <br />not asking you to do something that's untried, experimental, but something that has been done <br />elsewhere and works. <br />And when it works here, and it's implemented here, it can be a, what did the Mayor call it, he <br />calls it a template for golf courses. Imagine that, if we could find a technology that would no <br />longer need toxic chemicals or leaching fertilizers that can be used for a template for all other <br />` <br />golf courses that happen here on the Island of Hawaii, all golf courses that are presently being <br />` <br />maintained and beyond to the State of Hawaii. So this could be an enormous step that could <br />make this project not only a template for the development process but also for golf courses and <br />` <br />ultimately for agriculture in the State of Hawaii. <br />I hope that we can -, and the other thing is, aside from biorational, is another approach, and <br />that's the Audubon Society's approach. And they have three levels called bronze, silver, and <br />gold, and each one of them has increasing amount of criteria that make the project safer and <br />safer and safer. Now, the golf course developer, Mr. Robinson, the architect, has already <br />achieved the first, he's the first one to do a silver golf course in America. And it shouldn't be <br />too much of a step to go from silver to gold, because if anything is worth it, Kohanaiki is <br />worth the gold. And it's just a matter of being able to select certain standards, and maybe it'll <br />cost a little more money, but in the end if it's going to be what's going to protect the <br />environment, then it's worth every cent of it. <br />I hope that we will be able to come forth with something for you that is already, this is it, we <br />all agree on it, and we recommend you do it. If that shouldn't happen, then we'll come to you <br />with the issues that are left unresolved, and it'll be for you to decide whether, well, this <br />condition, let it go less sensitive or let it go more sensitive. I hope that doesn't come to that. <br />But this is where we're heading, and we have a month to work on it, and we're going to work <br />on it diligently. Where appropriate, we'll keep you informed. We want to educate you as <br />we're educating ourselves, as we're educating Mr. Eadie and Mr. Robinson. And in the end, <br />we want to see the golf course at Kohanaiki to be the finest and most environmentally sensitive <br />golf course that could possibly be built there. And we support this development with that <br />caveat in mind. <br />Oh, I have one question. A little confusion about the size of the park. I hear 109 acres, and <br />then I see that there's golf courses there, and I don't understand. Is that actually 109 acres of <br />public park? Does that include the golf course? I just don't understand that, and I would <br />appreciate if there was some, if I could get some clarity on the extent of the actual public park <br />that public will have access to. <br />21 <br /> <br />