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GALDONES:Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the <br />` <br />Hawaii County Planning Commission? <br />BROCK:I do. <br />GALDONES:Doctor, could you state your name and your residence address, please. <br />BROCK:Okay. My name is Richard Brock. My residence is 1820 Kihi Street, <br />` <br />Honolulu, Hawaii. <br />GALDONES:Thank you, Mr. Brock. Mr. Yuen has some questions for you. <br />YUEN:I wanted to ask some general questions because there -, these are things <br />that come up again and again in front of the Commission on coastal water quality, water <br />pollution, and then on this site, in particular, we have concerns about the anchialine ponds. I <br />` <br />know you did the, some of the initial surveys of anchialine ponds in West Hawaii. <br />The general -, to give a lead up to the general questions about the coastal water quality, we're <br />always concerned about the effect of what we're doing on ocean water, and just in general, the <br />people are concerned about nutrient levels that have caused problems in other areas in the past. <br />We now, we've had, we have a history of, and when we have -, for the benefit of the <br />Commission, there is a great deal of sampling, of water sampling that's done as a condition of <br />all the permits on water chemistry. Most of those over the last 20 years have had monitoring <br />requirements, and there's been a great deal of data generated. As far as getting in the water, <br />looking at the corals or the transects, I think our data may be much less detailed from a <br />scientific point of view. <br />What I wanted to ask Dr. Brock is what -, can you make some general comments about what -, <br />are we seeing declines in coral reefs? Are we seeing unusual growth in algae? Are we seeing <br />` <br />problems on the West Hawaii coast in areas where you have, where we've had development, <br />where we have golf courses, in particular, out in the ocean? And what has been the experience <br />as far as areas where we have golf courses next to anchialine ponds or upslope from anchialine <br />`` <br />ponds such as Waikoloa, Kkio? I can't think where else we have -. Waikoloa and Kkio <br />would be the main ones. <br />BROCK:Okay. Nice little short simple question to answer. Thank you. I'll try. <br />What I'll say will be based on probably more than 20 years worth of looking at these systems, <br />both pond systems, groundwater anchialine ponds and then your shore ocean waters. In <br />general, where there has been development, say like at Waikoloa, where there are a lot of <br />anchialine ponds, and as we all know, there were a bunch filled in a very heated contested <br />situation in the mid-'80s, what we've seen there is -. And of course this golf course near <br />anchialine pools, mauka of anchialine pools. What we've done there is we sample, just to give <br />9 <br /> <br />