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GRAHAM:I guess what I'm hearing you say is certainly responding to what I was <br />thinking. What you're saying is if they bought asset and liability, the particular parcel that <br />contains the liability also continues to contain a lot of asset value. Therefore, it's not necessarily <br />right this moment to deal with it. But if anything further goes on with that parcel, then perhaps it <br />would be. Am I reading that correctly? <br />YUEN:Yes. And just to add, there are at least three private entities with an <br />interest in getting a resolution to the question of the coal ash pile, that being Continental Pacific, <br />which owns the fee, the Hawaiian Rainbows Company, that has a lease with option to purchase <br />the property, and Brewer Mauna Kea Agribusiness, which has some contractual responsibility <br />with Continental Pacific with respect to the existing of that coal ash there. <br />GRAHAM:Thus, it's your belief that this would not be missing the appropriate <br />opportunity to deal with the coal ash issue if we continued without referencing it in our <br />negotiations at this time? <br />YUEN:It's an issue that has -. The coal ash pile is an issue that is being worked <br />on separately. It's -, for the Planning Commission to go forward on these applications will not <br />prevent any opportunity from -, for solving the coal ash as a separate matter. <br />GRAHAM:Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Okay. Commissioners, any further question of Mr. Lim? Commissioner <br />Thibadeau. <br />THIBADEAU:Yeah, I'd like to ask the Director to comment on the easement requirement <br />for the public access. I'm somewhat confused by that. Is it in fact a requirement, and what's the <br />situation on protecting the easement? Or is an easement required, I don't know? <br />YUEN:We will be getting an easement, we -. The only excuse I wo <br />the easement not being in hand is that there are only so many hours in the day, and we haven't <br />finalized the easement documents. We could finalize most of them. The only -, there are some <br />issues with respect to the lateral easement. The remaining easements are -, but the remaining <br />easements are in the final subdivision map. They are a requirement of subdivision. I don't see a <br />practical problem with waiting on the easement documents, but we will need to get those done. <br />The part that needs to be verified on the ground are a few of the -, are on the lateral easement <br />along the coast. There are a few places where we have to settle on the final alignment because of <br />terrain issues like little gullies that have to be skirted. <br />THIBADEAU:Thank you. <br />GALDONES:One moment. There's some procedural matters that I need to discuss with <br />Counsel. <br />18 <br /> <br />