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be Kaloko Drive and Haleamau Street. So the applicant intends to subdividethe property into 2, <br />10+-acre size lots. Single-family dwellings will be constructed on the property on both lots. <br />According to the applicant each lot will be owned, the first lot will be owned by the applicants <br />and the second lot will be owned by the applicant€s daughter and son-in-law. Water is available <br />to the area and sewer would be by individual wastewater treatment system. The Planning <br />Director is recommending approval of this request with conditions and these are standard <br />conditions, normal conditions that we recommend or impose for the subdivisions or rezoning <br />within this particular area. Are there any questions? <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Siracusa? <br />' <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you. Since this area is within the Alala recovery zone I€m <br />wondering if they would€ve- is that covered by-? Since it€s a federally listed species would the <br />recovery plan come under U.S. Fish and Wildlife or is this DLNR Forestry and Wildlife is it <br />theirkuleana? <br />HAYASHI:Yes.Myunderstandingit€swiththeU.S.FishandWildlifeService. <br />SIRACUSA:Okay.Soshouldn€ttheyhavebeensentaletteraskingfortheirinput? <br />HAYASHI:Wecouldhavedonethatbutforthisparticularareaweknowthatinthe <br />past that this particular zone within this certain elevation is a possible 'Alala bird- I always get <br />them mixed up. <br />SIRACUSA:Habitat? <br />HAYASHI:A habitat. So we did not send the application. But we can, we could start <br />sending it to them again. <br />SIRACUSA:I would certainly feel more comfortable with that. There are obviously <br />some conditions in the recovery plan that these people would be bound by but we did not get any <br />copies of that to refer to. So I don€t know. For example, you know like birds tend to be sensitive <br />indicators in terms of air aerosol pesticides and I€m wondering if there€s anything in the recovery <br />plan which would prevent the applicants and their in-laws from using certain chemicals in the <br />area to prevent them from impacting the 'Alala. We know the population is very tiny now and <br />pretty much on its last legs. There€s some question even as to whether its still a viable <br />population considering the depredations of our other endangered species the hawk, the I'o. So <br />I€m wondering if there€s any provision there or perhaps the Director would know whether there€s <br />any provision in the recovery plan regarding use of aerosol pesticides? <br />YUEN:I don€t know but the recovery plan is not a land use regulation. The area <br />was never actually designated as critical habitat for the 'Alala. And so there isn€t any, when you <br />designate a critical habitat for Federal actions taken in the area there€s a federal consultation <br />requirement but this isn€t actually critical habitat. So, I€m not sure what the details of the <br />recovery plan were or what they would have proposed for any controls in the area but it isn€t <br />actually under any kind of Federal regulation or control. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />2 <br /> <br />