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MOOERS:Would you like me to respond? <br />GALDONES:Yes. <br />MOOERS:Yes there is a requirement that we prepare a Forest Management Plan. <br />Maybe the appropriate protocol would be to have Planning Department make contact to <br />determine what sorts of things they ought to have in that Forest Management Plan that would in <br />effect accomplish the goals that you€re seeking. Rather than have a whole series of individual <br />applicants come down. If there are some standard conditions or some standard language that <br />they€d like to see in the Forest Management Plan that would be implemented then across the <br />board. <br />GRAHAM:That sounds appropriate to me. <br />GALDONES:Anyfurtherquestions?Anyfurthercomments?Mr.Mooersanyclosing <br />statement? Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Is there some way that we would have to make that request to Director <br />Yuen official? <br />YUEN:We€re trying to standardize the Forest Management Plans because they are <br />all mostly essentially going to be the same. One thing to remember about the 'Alala is that there <br />are no, unfortunately, there are no 'Alala actually in the wild anymore. They€ve been all taken <br />out. They€re all, there€s an attempt to produce a captive breeding stock and they€re going to be <br />put back in. There€s no telling where they€ll be put back in but the most likely place would be <br />the Federal Forest Bird Sanctuary in south Kona. That€s where the last population was. Then <br />there€s also the State Bird Sanctuary at Pu'uwa'awa'a, which is about a 3800-acre area of native <br />forest. So, it€s a little bit hypothetical what you would do besides keeping the forest there. The <br />kinds of things that hurt the 'Alala are, there€s a problem with the I'o. Rats are a big problem. <br />And I just don€t know, you know they might come up with a lot of recommendations for the <br />owners to control rats on their property. I don€t know how far we can really go with expecting a <br />private owner of a lot to implement really active measures in terms of maintaining, beyond you <br />know keeping the forest cover for the 'Alala. <br />GALDONES:Commissioner Siracusa? <br />SIRACUSA:Under the circumstances I would like to request of Mr. Mooers that he <br />take it on personally to discuss this issue with the applicant and suggest to the applicant that he <br />contact U.S. Fish and Wildlife for any recommendations. And not make this official just you <br />know ask if you would do this as a good guy. <br />MOOERS:I€ll try to be a good guy and I will make that request to the owner and if <br />the owner is reluctant I will personally make contact with Fish and Wildlife. <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you very much. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />6 <br /> <br />