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have a clinical diagnosis of oppositional defiance or not, it€s, you know,they€rehaving <br />difficulty in school. You know, you can tell from a more non-clinical subjective point of <br />view that this kid is going down the wrong road. <br />ALAMEDA:I guess it€s the term high-functioning.‚ It€s voluntary and deals <br />only with high-functioning‚ -. To me, high-functioning encompasses of, you know -. <br />MCKINNEY:I think it€s high-functioning in the scope of the kids that are usually <br />going to special treatments so -. <br />ALAMEDA:Academically, like maybe they get good grades but they still kind <br />of naughty or -? <br />MCKINNEY:Well, we find mostly kids that we€re working with, and within <br />kindofthisframeworkandtheidea,isthey€rebrightkids,they€rejustgettingmixedup <br />for whatever reason. <br />ALAMEDA:Right, right. Cause I think you mentioned earlier about Ka`u <br />needing, you know, some resources; and the resources really is for those low-functioning, <br />non-compliant youngsters out there. The high-functioning kids, you know, they pretty <br />much from my own inkling they€re going to be okay cause they got support and there€s a <br />reason why they€re high-functioning. But it€s those other kids that I kind of worry about. <br />MCKINNEY:Well, and I guess it€s those kids that don€t have the support, you <br />know, that can -. And like I said, it€s, I€ve worked and seen a lot of kids that really are <br />bright and get it but they get lost for whatever reason, whether they have a great family or <br />a bad family. Adoption issues really tend to be a big thing that, you know, while maybe <br />not super clinical, it really affects kids and their happiness, their health, their <br />productivity, their impact on the community. So you€re absolutely right, I mean, there <br />needs to be more facilities that deal with low-functioning students. <br />ALAMEDA:So what would your guys€ plans be then if you don€t get that <br />special license from Department of Health? Just curious. <br />MCKINNEY:We€ll probably be an organic working farm. I mean, that€s, as you <br />guys were kind of asking, this, to us, is contingent upon getting -. This is the first step <br />and then we get the license. So if we don€t get the license, it really is, in my mind, kind <br />of moot. We€re not going to operate a, you know, a Special Treatment, Unlicensed <br />Special Treatment Facility. And, you know, there are language in here, penalties, etc., <br />etc. <br />ALAMEDA:Right, right. Okay. Thank you. <br />GALDONES:Further questions or comments to the Applicants? Commissioner <br />Graham? <br />11 <br /> <br />