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through Naalehu. How do you plan to improve that so thataccessibility would be <br />something much more desirable than it is? <br />MCKINNEY:Well, Chris has been driving that road just about every day for the <br />last year. We have all 4-wheel drive vehicles, we probably have a couple of Suburbans, <br />so that we could go over anything we needed to. It€s confusing, this, the whole road and <br />who owns what. Our property goes across the road. According to the last C. Brewer <br />survey map that we saw, and I based our site plan on that map, but that wash is repaired; <br />and I know Mr. Cross said it€s on his property. I€m not sure what all the residents up <br />there are going to do. I mean, I€m not, I don€t, I understand there€s some liability issue. <br />As a Special Treatment Facility, we€re going to have lots of liability insurance, there€s all <br />that kind of stuff. But I just wonder, I assume this is a topic that every person that owns a <br />piece of property has to deal with, going through other people€s property. And I assume <br />we€re all going to come to some kind of agreement that we€re all going to allow each <br />othertogothrougheachother€sproperty,orelsenoonecangettotheirland. <br />KAISER:Theconditionoftheroadis,Iwouldsay,Iwouldcharacterizeitas <br />fair. The gulch is repaired and it€s a little bumpy, but it€s not bad. I drive it almost every <br />other day. <br />GALDONES:Being that this is a road in limbo and Mr. Cross says that it should <br />be considered as a government road, we are not, if you€re not successful in having it <br />designated as a government road, are you prepared to do some repairs so that families of <br />the children that you have there would be able to access it without a 4-wheel drive <br />vehicle? <br />MCKINNEY:Yes. I mean, that€s certainly something we€d be willing to <br />consider. I mean, we€re not a multi-million dollar organization where we can throw <br />around tons of money. I mean, as I said, I think it€s going to be the responsibility of all <br />the property owners up there to kind of get together. If it€s not government then there <br />should be probably some homeowner€s association. But, you know, we sent, we€ve got a <br />letter from the Department of Public Works who have no objections to the request and <br />did designate it as a government right-of-way. But we, certainly, will make it drivable -. <br />The other thing, too, is we€re not going to have a lot of traffic up there. Families don€t <br />just get to come whenever they want and visit their children. You know, a lot of the kids <br />we get, there€s family dynamic issues, too, so -. And that was one of the concerns raised <br />by Mr. Silva, was the amount of traffic, and we would be very limited in that respect. <br />KAISER:Yeah. We€re not, the, our clients or students are not leaving the <br />facility everyday and driving down. And, so, we€re talking about maybe two or three <br />staff people to and from each day, so pretty minimal compared to what€s already up there <br />on the road. <br />GALDONES:Mr. Silva? <br />24 <br /> <br />