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CROSS:It€s collapsed on the mauka side, probably just before their <br />property. When you get in the cave, you€ll stand up, you can walk. And, you know, the <br />pahoehoe sides, that€s all glazed, that€s where all the petroglyphs are. As you walk up, <br />you can feel air coming through the cracks in the cave, mauka, but then it€scollapsed. So <br />I don€t know where it goes beyond that. Certainly it goes up, up I don€t know where. <br />YUEN:So if somebody dug a cesspool there, that would be, it possibly <br />could deposit into a, an extension of the cave, quite possibly. <br />CROSS:If I had any concern over this project, it was voiced to Chrisabout <br />that, specifically. When he sent me the, your, their plan and I saw where the septic tank <br />was, that€s the first thing that came in mind. I was very concerned about that. <br />YUEN:Youknowanyreasonwhythemaukasidewasnotincane? <br />CROSS:Totalrock.It€sverypoor,poorsoil. <br />YUEN:IaskedNormantogooverandlookatmy,our-.Letmejustlook <br />at something here and then I€ll -. If the other Commissioners have any other questions -. <br />I want to look at the map and, on the roads, the government road question. <br />GALDONES:Mr. McKinney? <br />MCKINNEY:I, we would be happy to move the building. I mean, if there€s any <br />concern at all about destroying a cave, even one that€s collapsed, I mean, I think what I <br />would like to do is move the building quite a bit to the west, maybe kind of, if I may, just <br />go up here. I think maybe around here might be a more appropriate location so that we€re <br />as -. <br />NOMURA:Microphone. <br />MCKINNEY:I€m sorry. So we€re as far away from that area as possible. <br />KAISER:We had originally picked that part cause it was the furthest down <br />away from the road, before we knew about the cave. So that made the most sense to have <br />it away from the road so there wasn€t a visual impact, you know, people driving by and <br />stuff like that. <br />MCKINNEY:And so many things are contingent upon people getting in and <br />looking at things, and what€s going to be the best way, the septic guys and the water <br />guys, and all that kind of stuff. <br />GALDONES:Mr. McKinney, in reference to the road that Mr. Cross spoke <br />about, if the road is in that condition, then that is, your plan is to use that road access <br />23 <br /> <br />