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there wouldn’t, it would not have been signed off. So we couldn’t -. I wish we could have <br />brought permitted structures to you guys today. But we certainly plan on doing that. <br />DOMINGO: Well, in actuality then, being realistic, all these buildings should be taken <br />away from the property and then you can come in for an application for the anticipated use and <br />consider it; and then, therefore, there wouldn’t be any problem with regards to acquisition or <br />permits for this property. You stated that you’re working out of the Shirakawa Hotel. And then <br />are you still using these buildings to conduct the retreat for those people? <br />ZELKO: We still farm there. And the children, the campers do still go to the farm <br />because it’s difficult at the Shirakawa Hotel, and there’s not a lot of area to farm. I don’t know, <br />you may have started doing some farming there. But for the most part we do go out there and <br />farm, and the kids do still go out there. It’s just they do not stay and they don’t use the facilities. <br />DOMINGO: Not one bit? <br />ZELKO: Except the things that are under six feet, and those aren’t in the, those are, <br />you don’t have to permit those. Those are the in case it rains, really is what those building are <br />because they look kind of silly. I mean, if it’s raining or it’s too sunny and the kids have to write <br />about the plants. That’s kind of what they’re there for, it’s the shelter. <br />DOMINGO: It’s unfortunate that you folks started on the wrong foot. And with regards <br />to the survey that’s being done, you were waiting for the State to conduct that survey as to what <br />was really on the premises? <br />ZELKO: No. It was R.M.Towill, our surveyor. <br />DOMINGO: What took him so long? Three years, I mean -. <br />MCKINNEY: I really wish I knew. I was calling them every month. My best <br />understanding or sense of it is they needed to survey all of the surrounding areas and instead of <br />just doing ours they did everyone’s at once. <br />WOODWARD: Commissioner Iwashita. <br />IWASHITA: Thank you, Mr. Chair. In reviewing the history of this, right, I guess my, <br />what I’d like you to address is, you know, in 2004 basically the Commission said, look, this <br />archaeological assessment needs to be done, right? And I understand the concerns about the <br />delay as far as the survey actually getting the work done. However, the reason, you know, and I <br />would agree with the former Commission, right, that the survey needs to be done. And the <br />reason is that you don’t want the sites destroyed, right? You went ahead and did work on the <br />property, made these unpermitted building, right, and now the survey comes in and says we can’t <br />find anything. Okay? As far as I know you may have destroyed them, just where the buildings <br />are. We don’t know. Okay? There’s no way for us to know now. And that’s my concern. And <br />so, you know, that is the difficulty you have placed us in, right? And my wife is an educator, <br />okay, and she always tells the kid, always tell the kids, you know the rules. Right? And they <br />10 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />
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