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may agree on the consequences for the rules, violating the rules, right? As far as I’m concerned you knew the rules and you went ahead and did what you did. What was your understanding or, I don’t know, you had any understanding what the consequences would be if you violated those rules as you did? You had no understanding? MCKINNEY: Well, again, I believed that we were operating as a working farm. To build -. IWASHITA: I don’t question that. What I’m saying is that your testimony is that you knew this survey needed to be done, the purpose of it was to identify whether there are any archaeological sites that needed to be protected in any way.Right. Notwithstanding that your testimony is that you went ahead anyway and built these unpermitted structures. Right? If these are all ag structures, I don’t think the Building Department would have any problems just in terms of that. I can see they would have a problem if they know that there’s a survey required, right, to make sure that these structures aren’t built on archaeological sites. So you would need to have had it done, I understand that. Right? The problem I have is you went ahead anyway. And you do good work apparently. You know, no one has contradicted that. Everybody says you do good work. That’s great. Right? We’ve got rules. And, you know, maybe you need to do it someplace else, at the hotel and rent some, you know, lease some little ag piece of property that I don’t think would cost that much for the kids to do what you need to do in the meantime. Right? You know, there are a lot of alternatives as I see it. So there needs, and I would like for you to go forward, you know, be able to do what you need to do. But there, in my mind there, you know, I’m asking you what you think would be an appropriate consequence for your violating these rules, your knowingly, as far as I’m concerned, knowingly violating these rules. MCKINNEY: Well, I have spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to st rectify this decision, our bad decisions, I guess. In November 1 we started sleeping our students in Pahala. And subsequently we’ve moved into the Shirakawa. So we have spent a lot of time and energy to try and move this project forward. It’s difficult because what I think and thought does have to do with my decisions. But I also understand at the end of the day what I did was wrong; and I am willing to suffer those consequences, and I will. But I also do run a good program. I believe in second chances. I work with a lot of troubled kids and would hope that we would be able to show you that we’re a valuable member of the community. IWASHITA: Follow-up, Mr. Chair? WOODWARD: Yes. IWASHITA: Thank you. You just said that from November of 2008 the children who come to your place had been staying, first stayed in Pahala and now it’s Shirakawa Hotel. Prior to November 2008, were the children staying on the property? MCKINNEY: Yes. Yes. IWASHITA: Okay, thank you. 11 EXHIBIT B