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WOODWARD: All right. You may begin if you’d like. Are you going to testify first? <br />ZELKO: Actually, I would really like Mike McKinney who runs the day to day <br />operations just to kind of explain what the camp is doing. You saw some photos. But there’s a <br />lot of farming going on there, so I thought he’d be best. <br />WOODWARD: Okay. If you’ll give us your name and address and then begin. <br />MCKINNEY: Sure. My name is Mike McKinney. My address is 419 Huali Place here <br />in Hilo. I’m happy to kind of give you guys an overview of what we do. I’m also happy to <br />answer some of the questions that were brought up. We serve adolescents. It’s mainly a farming <br />program, a lot of experiential education. We work with kids who are mostly coming from the <br />mainland. These are kids of who have very minor issues, loss, grief. It’s more about building <br />these kids up, having them connect with nature and the land. We typically work with these kids <br />for about 60 days. It’s a real quick overview of what we do. <br />WOODWARD: All right. Any questions? Commissioner Domingo. <br />DOMINGO: Was a cease and desist order placed upon your -? <br />MCKINNEY: No. <br />DOMINGO: Land use and what you were doing in the past? Were you permitted to do <br />it? <br />MCKINNEY: Well, when we first came to the hearing in 2004 we applied for a special <br />treatment facility. And some of the questions you guys have are questions we’ve had this whole <br />time about how do we fit into the mental health area. We come from states where it’s more <br />clearly defined. And when we came here there was really only one category that kind of met or <br />was anywhere close to what we were doing. And rather than try and pick something that you’re <br />not familiar with we thought it would be most appropriate to try and apply for a special treatment <br />facility. At this time we thought we were operating as a farm and a campground. I believe that <br />this permit was, we wanted to be proactive, we wanted to look into the future and be able to <br />combine all the components that are in a farm like this. And when we went to the hearing some <br />of the conversations were around the mental health issues; and would the Health Department <br />even consider us a special treatment facility because we work with mostly voluntary kids. They <br />are a very soft program. There’s a lot of testimony that maybe we weren’t appropriate for that <br />level of supervision. So when we left the meeting we had a continuance and continued to <br />operate as a farm and a campground. And to answer your question, sir, we were, later the <br />Planning Department did make contact with us and said we were in violation and operating -. <br />And that’s why I was a little surprised. I said we were operating a special use facility; and in my <br />mind we were always operating the campground and a farm. <br />And so at that, I could step back a little bit too. I had, I had received a survey. You guys have <br />the survey. It’s a little confusing because I purchased the property and it was 7.8 acres. By the <br />6 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />