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wells in, little five-foot wells, half-inch, they put tygon tubing in, suck Òem out. YouÓre <br />going to be really lucky if you could find the stuff. ItÓs really complex. But itÓs there. <br />And, you know, huh, where do you think it goes? <br />So I couldnÓt swear to the asphalt teams and the things coming out of asphalt roads. But <br />if I were you, IÓd say concrete roads. And if I were you, IÓd say you put a structure in <br />here, no underground termicides, no liquids, no. Even paste and <br />Try some termite guy, tell you, oh, it absorbs. No way. ThereÓs no more clay in that soil. <br />You know, it migrates, and it does things; and itÓs impossible to try to find the stuff and <br />test for it in some way. And even if you did, by the time you f <br />the damage because the underlying layers are going to be full of it. So, anyway, to do it <br />is to prevent it before it starts. <br />Long time ago, I had a wonderful boss, told me once youÓve got t <br />When you going to make a mistake, always make it in the safe direction. Now, you can <br />make a mistake here. Make it in the safe direction. Tell the contractors and tell these <br />people, look, you can build your houses, there are ways to do it. IÓve heard of a stainless <br />steel screen goes underneath the whole foundation, the pukas are so small the Formosan <br />termites canÓt get in and eat at it. IÓve heard of beds of diatomaceous earth which <br />apparently they canÓt get through. ThatÓs the stuff you put in <br />Now these may be a little more expensive than hiring a company to come in for a few <br />hundred bucks and destroy whatÓs underneath your home and not know where the hell <br />itÓs going to go afterwards, but make your mistake in the safe direction. WeÓre not <br />dealing with a common neighborhood in a common environment. Thi <br />ecology, a lot of it goes underground. Please mind that underground environment. <br />Thank you. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, Mr. Frost. Commissioners, do you have any questions <br />or comments? Director Yuen, you have any response to the testifierÓs recommendations <br />regarding the liquid termicides or concrete roads? <br />YUEN:I donÓt know any basis pursuing this problem with having an <br />asphalt or asphalt-concrete mix road. On termicides, I did do, because this was raised in <br />a letter, I did some research on the termite products that are commonly used by termite <br />companies in Hawaii and applied to ground termites. I donÓt know that this is commonly <br />done in the very dry areas, such as the resort areas of West Hawaii. I do know that we <br />have residential areas mauka of anchialine ponds that have been developed for many, <br />many years where there are healthy populations of shrimps in the anchialine ponds. <br />The chemicals that are used by the termite operators in, that are now approved for use are <br />not water soluble and do not move well, do not move into ground <br />documented problems that have happened from them come when thereÓs some direct <br />exposure into water. Like they use them, thereÓs a drain unknown to the homeowner, <br />thereÓs a drain or pipe underneath the house, and from that it gets into the water. Many of <br />these chemicals are also in agricultural use; and when they get sprayed directly into water <br />20 <br /> <br />