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bodies then you do see some problems. But as far as the leachin application for a home site, thatÓs not something that is documented as a problem. FROST:May I reply? I would like to reply to that. You may be right that thereÓs no documenting that thereÓs leaching. I would also tell you thereÓs nothing in the scientific studies that denies it, and it says the opposite. And because it isnÓt water soluble certainly doesnÓt preclude its transport in this kind of a situation. These are persistent chemicals built to be persistent. I heard one man say, well, weÓre using some synthetic pyrithrins, great stuff. ItÓs like they cross-link it a little bit more so it wonÓt break down. ItÓs even more persistent. So that because thereÓs no scientific evidence of a hurtfulness here, I can tell you nobody has investigated it. The crack is wide open. When I first started, and I helped start OSHA here in early 1970s, we were in charge of pesticide use in Hawaii. It was a disaster. I saw people spraying themselves and rolling around there. It was a total, it still is, if you watch the applicators do it. Well, it was such a mess that OSHA got rid of it and we shunt it over to the Department of Ag saying, well, a lot of this is in ag use, and itÓs oversprayed, and all this stuff; and the guys that do the house stuff got lost in the cracks. A lot of them went to small outfits so there was less than ten, so we couldnÓt touch them in OSHA. So they could continue to poison themselves, the applicators themselves. So this is not a clean, this is not a clean business, this business of pumping the pesticides into your ground. And it slipped between the cracks. Nobody is watching it. Try to find out how much was put where. But IÓll tell you after 30 years in Hawaii, and I tested the waters for the Health Department for ecolis and things, I know what they can do, and they canÓt touch this. And the EPA isnÓt here, and nobody is here; and nobody is interested in finding out and funding studies about it. But what youÓll see is the more houses upslope, after a little bit the less life there is on the shore, the ponds go bad. Look at the ponds behind the, in the old Thurston place there behind the, that hotel. There used to be full of turtles and fish and things; and thereÓs sludge now. Now this is a unique environment and the common every day home t thinking of pollutes the underground environment, and nobodyÓs watching. So I would only caution you, if youÓre going to make a mistake, make it in a safe direction. ÒCause once that stuff is in the ground youÓre not going to get it out; and thereÓs no way youÓre going to find out exactly where it goes, and thereÓs no way youÓre going to stop it once itÓs started. ThereÓs no remedial thing you can do. Just go look around in the islands, you look at the shorelines, the more houses up above, the less life on the shoreline. So IÓve tried to give you peek of what the real cause is, Òcause itÓs real. Hope you take it to heart. Thank you. SPRINGER:YouÓre welcome. Thank you. Commissioners, any questions or comments? Thank you. Mr. Erway? ERWAY:Yes, IÓm Duane Erway and I live in Kailua-Kona on Princess Keelikolani. Rollin is actually a neighbor of mine and my address is P.O. Box 2807, Kailua-Kona 96745. 21