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an application that we have been dealing with for quite some time now, and emotions obviously are running quite high in this. And so the Chair would entertain a motion to move into executive session, so that we can confer with counsel on how to proceed from here. IWASHITA: I just, given Mr. Matsukawa’s position, Mr. Chair, I would like to ask if Mr. Krueger had a response to that and what your position is under the sunshine law. WATANABE: Okay. I’ll allow that. Mr. Krueger? KRUEGER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don’t have response specifically on the sunshine law; I would defer to Mr. Torigoe. But I believe the reason for my objection, if it was a member of the general public who simply had a comment to make, I might be less inclined to object. But because it’s Dean Kaiawe’s sister and she has a direct, the same relationship that he does to the property as an intervenor, I think that in my opinion her testimony would be more objectionable because we tend to favor one party over another, and not just be a general statement from the public. So that’s my comment. WATANABE: Any follow-up? IWASHITA: No. WATANABE: Okay. Once again, then -. This one? I guess we have a request for further testimony from another individual. I’m not aware of the relationships here, so -. You know what? (Chair had discussion with Mr. Torigoe.) Okay, once again, it seems the Rules are clear that prior to public -, we should take this public testimony. So may I call up Nancietta Haalilio? Ms. Haalilio, may I swear you in, please? Would you raise your right hand? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth now before the Planning Commission? HAALILIO: I swear to you. WATANABE: Thank you. Would you then state your name and address for the record, please? HAALILIO: My first name is Nancietta, last name Haalilio. And my interest regarding the Kaohe property has to do with a majority of my in-laws; my family are buried there. The last burial was my mother-in-law, and that was an agreement or condition that she should be buried on the property, and that turned out well. My concern regarding Mr. Ibbetson’s request for a bed and breakfast, several hearings ago, I mentioned my contesting toward that request because it’s a business in a private dwelling, and I didn’t elaborate on it. I do question the validity of having a “mini motel” service that’s unlicensed unless the approval by this body provides that license. But I still would question the appropriateness of the private residence being used as a public shelter, similar to a motel. My personal concern is that if this body gives approval for the bed and breakfast to happen, I do not – and the rest of my family – do not take kindly to having the burial sites be viewed as almost like a scenic spot. There would be strangers coming in and out. And the last thing we want is for somebody to say, oh, how quaint, a cemetery in your place, and have it be open for public viewing. It’s always been pretty private. And so, on those two points, I do want to raise consideration that the family feels that it would be intrusive to have strangers who probably could not avoid walking through the cemetery portion. Thank you. EXHIBIT A 5