2023-10-05 Windward Exh B (Item #2 Hana U'I LLC)

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want you do it but here's why". And this applicant been very amenable to that and understands. I think understands the issues for coastal erosion. LIN: Okay, thank you very much Alex. Alright, seeing no other comments or questions, I'll move. Oh, go ahead Commissioner Cross. CROSS: I've worked this land, the specific land in Mauna Kea Sugar for about 30 years and we used to do aerial observations sites every 6 weeks to look at the cane. This area, north of Mr. Kocol's area is probably one of the sheerest, steepest coasts I have seen along Mauna Kea Sugar. I have seen many landslides which usually occurs after an earthquake and the ocean is being all brown. For your future studies I have photographs of this specific area north of Kocol's area. ROY: That would be helpful. CROSS: With these big dirt and stained ocean because of the sloughing of that. ROY: Yeah, we've seen 30-35 feet lost in one event. The issue we face with shoreline erosion is a lot of people looking for a rate of change which is difficult when it's episodic. So you get all of a sudden boom, then 100 years you could maybe not get anything. So, that's hard sometimes to relay to an applicant. Like, look I get it, it may not look like, but you could, and you could lose a lot very quickly and so, that would be very helpful, that kind of information. So, yeah, I'll talk with you after about that. Yeah, we try to inform people that it's not, it's hard sometimes to see the differences and see the changes but, it can be pretty bad very quickly and that could be challenging. LIN: Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, if not, thank you Alex and I'll bring up the applicant now. [A male and female from the audience approached the testifier table]. If you could please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Windward Planning Commission? MALE AND FEMALE AT TESTIFIER TABLE: Yes, we do. LIN: Okay, if you would just press, press the button there, the mic should be red. FEMALE AT TESTIFIER TABLE: I do. LIN: Okay and then speak directly into the microphone, state your name and the area you reside in and whom you represent, and have you received the background and recommendation reports from the Planning Department? And do you agree with the recommendations including the proposed conditions? KOCOL: Got it, okay thank you. Good morning, commissioners, and staff. My name is John Kocol, this is my wife, Martha Edwards. We are the applicants, and we are representing ourselves. We have, I believe the question was reviewed the material and are very well 8 EXHIBIT B